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Once And For All: No 'MGS 4' For 360

Posted by Stephen Johnson - Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:22 AM

The rumors that Metal Gear Solid 4 is going multi-platform have been swirling around the internet since the mid 1940s, but, according to Konami, it's just not going to happen. The game will be playable only by Sony fans.

A Konami spokesperson told thegamereviews.com:  "For the record, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is a PlayStation 3 exclusive and there are no plans to develop an Xbox 360 version of the game."

But still, it could happen, right? In other words, while it's highly unlikely that MGS 4 will come out on the 360, it's still physically possible, and in an infinite Universe, anything that isn't impossible is happening right now, has always happened and will continue to happen, so we are forced to conclude that Metal Gear Solid 4 has always been available on the 360.

We're playing it right now on the 360 in our imagination, and it's awesome!

thegamereviews.com:  Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots




Comment(s)

Posted by hetman - Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:46 AM

MSG4 may be a great game but it is not a system seller. It does not have the mass appeal that games like Halo and SMG have.

Posted by fedaykin0 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:47 AM

great. now i DO have to buy a ps3. looks like i didn't dodge that bullet after all.

Posted by X_Complication - Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:49 AM

um take that?

Posted by jargy1 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:49 AM

That cracked me up for no apparent reason. The whole 1940s reference was a great one. And MGS is a system seller. It was the first major system seller for PS2 when MGS2 hit. Prior to that the sales had been good but not fantastic. I'm just glad Sony and Microsoft will both need big titles after this. I'm sick of MGS and Halo. Mario can continue forever and as long as it stays as good as it always has been I'll be there.

Posted by Ruscle - Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:54 AM

FLAME ON!! Oh and the 1940 reference is funny.

Posted by scotthea01 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:59 AM

LOL. hetman says, "it's not a system seller" and then fedaykin says "now I DO have to buy a ps3." System seller? I think so. How many will be sold will have to wait til that fateful day when this title is released. The fact that 360 fans can't seem to let this rumor die is testament to the appeal this game has.

Posted by KratosFan - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:08 AM

@hetman-
While you have gained inasmuch of respect from me as I give, I must say that you are wrong. PARTIALLY. It will sell systems, as people wanting to play this game will have to buy a PS3 to do so. However, due to the audience of this game franchise (which has increased with every installment), the PS3 sales will not go from good to fantastic. This may be due in part to the low price of the 360, and will also be contributed to the many people that anticipated this and bought the PS3 ahead of time.

Posted by colourings - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:08 AM

I call shenanigans. MGS2 wasn't suppose to be on anything but PS2.

Metal Gear Solid is a love it or hate it series and I personally can't stand it so meh.

Posted by deleted_A717893D-78A2-4C79-89D3-748218161949 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:10 AM

http://vgchartz.com/weekly.php

Hardware: Console Weekly Total
903,959 (-) 64,585,297
609,917 (-) 19,203,390
PS3-------- 390,585 (-) 8,861,659
375,719 (-) 114,886,925
334,931 (-) 29,597,566
xbobx360--- 330,300 (-) 16,023,566
47,236 (-) 79,546,413
2,415 (-) 21,512,362
Total 2,995,062

Posted by KratosFan - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:10 AM

@colourings-
In case you haven't noticed, this is MGS4, not MGS2. And I believe that MGS2 was also an exclusive. But thanks to Remote Play, you should also be able to play this on your PSP.

Posted by deleted_A717893D-78A2-4C79-89D3-748218161949 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:11 AM

http://vgchartz.com/weekly.php

Hardware: Console Weekly Total
903,959 (-) 64,585,297
609,917 (-) 19,203,390
PS3-------- 390,585 (-) 8,861,659
375,719 (-) 114,886,925
334,931 (-) 29,597,566
xbobx360--- 330,300 (-) 16,023,566
47,236 (-) 79,546,413
2,415 (-) 21,512,362
Total 2,995,062

Posted by thecolorred199 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:12 AM

Yes MGS4 is a system seller. It's gonna start the Sony train since Killzone 2 comes out around the same time. It's just funny because everyone was talking smack about the 360 until Gears of War came out. Don't forget the 360 was losing to the PS2 until that game came out.

Posted by hetman - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:15 AM

MGS4 will be lucky to sell over a million copies. I personally already plan on buying a ps3 because of UT and the ability to dload mods. That is enough for me. I just cannot see this boosting the sells of PS3's like Halo did for the 360. I think FF at least in Japan will be the real system seller for the PS3. Look what it did for the psp.

Posted by santjnthn - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:17 AM

Well, it will be a loss for Konami. They are not going to make what they have spent on just releasing it on PS3. Uncharted, Lair, Jack & D or even Heavenly S have not seen such great sales on PS3, MGS4 will suffer the same. That is the same reason why Square Enix is on the fence right now. Exclusive contracts for this generation is a gamble that really takes some looking into. The cost of making games these days can affect how much revenue one can make back from only one system release. Sony has not convince consumers how much better that PS3 really is. Games on each system all look and play the same. Acception to the Bluray player that's built in. Nothing more has been done to really say, wow, that system is worth spending the extra money and where are the really good games. MGS4 is not really a system seller. GTA4 is. Exclusive content on Xbox 360 is going to sell systems..

Posted by play3rtwo - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:18 AM

Considering halo 3 was a dissapointment, I wouldn't bank too highly on any game. MGS for the Playstation One was a system seller just as much as Final Fantasy VII was. It's all about taste. The 360 has it's perks, so does the PS3 (remote play anyone?)

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:19 AM

mgs4 could sell systems, but only the hardcore fans actually care about that game anymore and mose of them should have already bought a ps3. the only selling it's going to do is to the ps2 owners who don't already own a ps3.

IMO of course.

Posted by KratosFan - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:20 AM

Don't mean to hijack this posting, but I've got a question.
I know it's possible to install foreign operating systems on the PS3. So if I were to install XP on a PS3 and, using a hardware emulator, I could, in theory at least, play PC games too? Has anybody else ever had that thought?

Innocent question, all. No need to flame on this posting.

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:23 AM

oh yeah and santjnthn has a good point. exclusive content for gta4 is what sold me on the 360. that and the lack of anything really for the ps3 at the time i bought it earlier this year.

Posted by DozertheDozarian - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:32 AM

Ya know, to say that it isn't going to be a system seller is kind of subjective. Kind of. From a personal standpoint, it may not be enough to make you, personally, purchase the system. However, others will feel that they need to purchase the system in order to simply play this game.

I think MGS will drive some sales for the PS3. I agree with some of the other comments that it won't drive them to the extent that Halo 3 did or the Wii's family-friendly concept did. I don't don't think that SMG drove sales of that system more than families thought they could do it together. Hence the casual and first-time gamers associated with the Wii...

Posted by aploex - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:33 AM

well GOOD for the people who own a PS3 ( I do)

why do xbox360 owners think EVERY game should be made for 360?

im glad Metla gear solid was not made for 360

Posted by DozertheDozarian - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:33 AM

All that aside, I think MGS is going to sell just fine. I also think that they should breakdown and release it to more platforms. But I'm just a guy with a computer and money to spend... What does my opinion count for...

Posted by Animepunk2103 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:36 AM

Im not going to get into a bashing battle today. But i would like to Laugh Out Loud to all the people who were telling me yesturday that MGS4 was coming to the 360.

@nicknotsuitableforG4:

I saw those numbers today for the first time too! Its great that the PS3 is outselling the 360 now. I dont think that will change for awhile. Hell even the PS2 is outselling the 360. Its about time people are starting to recognize the superior system.

Posted by the_sparrow666 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:46 AM

MGS4 is NOT a system seller. its for hardcore fans who already have a PS3. Plus, that franchise has gone stale, i used to love it but after the last one, meh.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:48 AM

All the games xbots don't want going cross-platform, but they would want our exclusives,
but I told those Fking monkeys yesterday to give it up, Kojima most likely wanted a machine that could show off his final masterpiece i.e, not the plzfixme.

Square-Enix never stated that they were on the fence about FF 13 or verus 13, which is why they are dveloping an original IP for the plzfixme, so you monkeys don't feel left out,
I thought it was Last Remnant but thats on both systems.FF 13 and versus 13 is not a cross-platform game, but you monkeys will
get a nice RPG from SE.

Posted by fedaykin0 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:53 AM

wait, i take it back: if i could rent a ps3, i'd maybe do that for MGS4. but that's a good point about FF, deathsdelivery, and if it doesn't go cross-paltform, then and only then will i buy another sony product.

Posted by colourings - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:54 AM

@KratosFan

I was eluding to the fact that it was said that MGS2 was meant to be exclusive at one point and as we can see, someone was incorrect.

Posted by sinister6972 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:55 AM

It all means one thing........go buy yourself a PS3!!!!!!!!!!

Don't hate, appreciate!!!!

Hey, I love the 360 too but whatever it comes out for I'm all for it. Plus, the holidays just passed, right?

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:08 AM

@fedaykin0

Then start preparing to get your PS3, FF 13 and verus 13 are only on PS3, I know for a fact, Not that they are big shots in Sony,
but I got family in one of the higher hierarchy
of Sonys offices, over in J@pan, and they keep me posted on somethings that might pique my interest, plus when I am done with college, I am moving there, to work for Sony, or Square-Enix.Plus the game they are developing for the plzfixme is a shooter type game, not a RPG as previously thought.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:10 AM

fedaykin0

also when you do get it, let me know your ID and you will have a friend on your list off the bat.

Posted by santjnthn - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:13 AM

I'm an Xbox owner. I don't feel that all Xbox 360 games should just be exclusive or vise versa. Unless they are published by the respecting system developer. Remember how a bunch of Sony fans were bent out of shape because of Devil May Cry 4. So much that a petition was created on the net. Konami is not owned by Sony just like Capcom is not own by Sony. Hey, like I said ealier, it will impact Konami in sales. Something Square Enix is really looking into with Final Fantasy. Some developers out there jumped the gun with contracts with out seeing how the market would turn out. Who would have thought the Wii would have taken off, who would have thought that PS3 would end up at third place so far. MGS4 must have been contracted long before this was started assuming that Sony would have been the system to have, but look at it now. That is why Capcom and some other developers did not make that same mistake.

Posted by KratosFan - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:17 AM

@santjnthn-

"At least I have chicken." Leeroy Jenkins

Gaming prevails!

Posted by icedbirdman - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:18 AM

Halo 3 did not boost the 360 sales most people who had a 360 alreaady were waiting on that game. the game is out and the buzz is over. If you want to play MSG4 you must get a PS3. The fact is Games are not scarce on the PS3 any longer and 08 I feel is going to be a breakout year for the PS3. Already sitting on great titles such as Uncharted and Rachet, the PS3 is coming along. the 360 came out is 05 was weak in 06 and came along in 07. the PS3 came out in 06 and started making moves in 07(end). MS is possibly releasing a HD DVD model to try and rally the 360 cause the the PS3 is coming along.
-Developers woes are over
-Games are equal if not better on the PS3
-Dualshock 3
-Enhanced PSN

Posted by fedaykin0 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:22 AM

@deathsdelivery: i've been coming to terms with it for some time. damn. that ps3 is such an eyesore. but i'm an absolute w#0re for FF. dammit!

Posted by Jimbodawg - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:27 AM

wtf is up with this then?
http://gamepro.com/news.cfm? article_id=154608

Posted by Jimbodawg - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:29 AM

Sorry about the spaces, I posted this on my ps3

Posted by fedaykin0 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:31 AM

@jimbodawg:

d00d, check the date on that. . .

Posted by Jimbodawg - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:31 AM

Sorry about the spaces, I posted this on my ps3

Posted by AshleyHawkins_Is_Bac - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:32 AM

Now Now people calm down, calm ur asses down...wait a minute. I'm not worried about it anymore cause I have a XBOX 360 and a Playstation 3, sucks for the guys that dont have one, and besides stop the fanboy ish. The Playstation 3 and the XBOX 360 is off the CHAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by hetman - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:32 AM

@icebirdman. That is totally wrong. Halo increased the amount of 360's being sold. If you remember when halo was released the next week was the first time that the 360 sold more units than the wii.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:32 AM

The only thing 360 has over PS3 is XBL,
but with that said developers, save for Rockstar, are leaning towards PSN because
Sony does not put a big gap between gamers and developers, 50 megs is the limit on live, there is no limit on PSN, developers are taking their time with PS3 games to see what their imagination can come up with, due to the freedom Sony gives them.
MS= take from the consumer, give a lttle
Sony= Take a litle from the consumer, give them more.Sony is about innovation, always has been, MS loves to just give you guys watered-down PC games and you all drink it right in, giving fuel to a monster thats needs to be stopped.

Posted by hetman - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:33 AM

@deathsdeliver. Stop acting like sony is some type of charitable donation company. They are not. They are just like ms they want your money. Their not doing it because it is a nice thing to do. They are doing it because they need to be profitable or their stock holders will lose money.

Posted by Jimbodawg - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:34 AM

it was today at 10:16 am

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:34 AM

icedbirdman put it right with the past and present of both systems, which all you xbots seem to forget, 360 was only selling because people wanted to say "I am next-gen, your so last gen", yet the systems software stunk to high heaven.Sony can't endure the same up-hill battle without a bunch of monkeys automatically calling fail, these monkeys need their gamer cards taken away and if they come within 50" feet of any console, shoot 'em in the back.

Posted by fedaykin0 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:36 AM

@deathsdelivery: don't forget that M$ is going to give us robots. to screw us.

cheers 4 the invite-ish.

Posted by fedaykin0 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:37 AM

@jimbodawg: odd. i copy/pasted and i got some post from about two years ago...

Posted by santjnthn - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:37 AM

@ icedbirdman - You are right, people who had an Xbox 360 did buy Halo 3, but you are wrong when you said that it did not sell systems because it did, and what will continue to sell systems is the on going poplular games. Exclusive content (GTA4), Also the fact that Xbox 360 turned out more games than both the Wii and PS3. Xbox 360 is selling more based on games, not because of one game, but because of the many games worth having the system for. MGS4 may sell systems, but MGS4 can't be the one reason to own a PS3, there has to be more must haves. Lair, Hevenly S, J & D, Drakes Uncharted. Sony needs to bring out games that sells system, not bet on one games that might.

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:38 AM

let's all keep in mind that this game is still not coming out for several months. you all get to play the waiting game until then.

sucks to be you!

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:39 AM

@hetman


I am not saying Sony is not after our money,
its just that they seem to give a fk about
gamers more than MS, and thank 3rd party support for the subpar library of games 360 has, had little to do with MS besides the hardware being the first on the market, which, yes can make a big difference,Ipod vs. Zune for example.
I am glad the xbot monkeys will be able to see why DMC rocks so much, but some games just are meant for 1 system, Halo, MGS4, and FF.
But hey give me Gear of War, that game was the only one I played on any of 360, which is why I sold it for scraps, my PC runs the game awesomely.

Posted by Jimbodawg - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:42 AM

@santjnthn
lair sux, but i am looking foward to the space ps3s year, littlebigplanet, haze, infamous. plus whenever l.a noire comes out itll be great because its so big it wont even fit on the 360s puny little dvds, only on BD.

Posted by audallas84 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:43 AM

Deathsdelivery, your forgetting about getting what you pay for. I've played both 360 and PS3 online and there's a huge difference. XBL costs money, but I never lagged once online. On the same IP we hooked up my buddy's PS3 and it lagged like hell. On top of that, XBL has a huge library of downloadable content, PSN..... not so much.

But about MGS4, I really don't care about it not being on the 360. You see, I like my stories to actually make sense. I also like to play my games, not watch cutscenes for 20 minutes. I also like realistic stealth games, where I actually have to think about what I'm doing, not hide in a cardboard box.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:43 AM

@staychisel

Ohhh, Im not an impatience turd who expects games to be out all quick like, just for my fking sake, yeah Konami don't polish up the game and make it greater than it could have been if you hurried it along like a system looking for a headstart, only to have a 30%+
failure rating.
Konami screw the quality, just give it to me now.

Posted by sparda_11 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:48 AM

Bu&%^#&!

Posted by audallas84 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:50 AM

One more thing PS3 fans. STOP BRINGING UP THE RROD!!!!! IT'S NOT A VALID ARGUEMENT ANYMORE. RROD is a problem on one batch of motherboards where it wasn't cooling properly causing the system to fail. Changes have been made to the board design and every board since runs cooler and quieter.

How do I know this? I work for Gamestop repairing 360's, PS3's and Wii's.

Posted by Doughnut62 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:51 AM

who cares I never liked MGS any way

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:51 AM

@audallas84

I have not seen lag on my connections, so thats a moot point in my ears.
Content is still limited, as for gaming,
But developers are leaning towards the PSN
for the freedom of content they can provide their consumers, yets see, 1 year of content over the comp, yeah you should have a fking lot.

Yeah lets play games that help escape the trails and tribulations of real-life, just to have the game simulate real-life to fking tee.
That makes sense.NOT!

Posted by santjnthn - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:51 AM

@ Jimbodawg - Dude, it did not stop Microsoft from making Lost Odyssey which is released on 4 DVD 9's. Does is really matter. I don't mind changing disc's and that comment is irrelevant, no game is stoping Microsoft from releasing because of space. There has not been one game ever turned down because of space issues. So far there have been only two games I know so far that has multiple discs and that is Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey and I did not hear anyone complain about changing discs. You can release a game on Bluray because of space but that still does not make the system worth getting if the games are not that good.

Posted by TruMax - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:54 AM

http://www.pcworld.com/article /id,140968-pg,1/article.html

Posted by fedaykin0 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:56 AM

@santjnthn: FF7.

Posted by icedbirdman - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:00 AM

audallas84
yeah you get what you pay for.......
theyll ban you if you sneeze and the service has been on and off for the last 3 weeks. if I pay for it it damn sure better work. I have never had a prob with PSN and its free. Psn is getting better everyday and Home is on the was

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:00 AM

So Sony finally woke up and opened up their wallet for Konami.

I guess they realized that if they lose the MGS exclusive, they have lost the console wars.

This is good news for XBox users because we don't want a monopoly. Monopoly gives a company the power to give you garbage and you have no choice but to consume it. Just look at the history of the Playstation.

The 16-bit era produced the most awesome games, why, because Sega and Nintendo were neck and neck in competition.

As much as I'd like to see Sony dead and buried, I also don't want to see the rich nerd in Seatle screwing up the console market like Sony did.

Posted by audallas84 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:00 AM

Subpar library of games on the 360? Clearly you haven't picked up a 360 controller. Mass Effect, Bioshock, Halo 3, Condemned, Naruto, Gears of War and Dead Rising are all exclusives that got great reviews.

What does the PS3 have? Resistance, warhawk and Drakes fortune. that's it. With Lair and Heavenly sword not being up to par thats the only reason to get a PS3 at this point.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:04 AM

@audallas84

you listed two games worth playing, I got RROD on 4, count em punk, 4 fking plzfixmes
so I know what I am talking about, unlike most of the dickheads on this site I try then I say whats on my mind
I had 4 of those crap boxes, had about 45 games,
and only played 1 of them, them it bricked on me, so fk MS, and if you don't like my opinion fk you too.

Posted by audallas84 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:06 AM

Downloadable content has a fee because someone has to pay for the developer taking time to make it in the first place. However, if you wait about a month or two, downloadable content loses its value and you get it for free. the only downloadable content I have yet to pay for is stuff for oblivion.

As for developers leaning towards sony, name some, because I have yet to hear of any. In fact I've heard multiple times that the PS3 development tools are harder than 360's, which is why shared titles like GRAW and Rainbow Six Vegas don't translate well. If you dont believe me on that one, check out the reviews shared titles.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:07 AM

"icedbirdman

Halo 3 did not boost the 360 sales most people who had a 360 alreaady were waiting on that game."


That's funny because the week Halo 3 came out, 360 sales tripled.

Hmmm... Maybe it's time to breathe the air outside your ass.

Posted by icedbirdman - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:11 AM

Sony is losing the consol war by whose numbers.
360 had a year headstart and was overtaken by the wii. PS3 cost the more and it still beat out the 360 numbers in head to head and far as the first year goes and it is helping to destroy HD DVD where every you see a loss its not for the Playstation brand. 360 keeps reienventing their system to keep up with the PS3. the only limiting factor for the PS3 is the programmers and they are comming along in a strong fashion. 08 is the year. a more affordable sku, daulshock 3, home, and a more impressive PSN showing. Sony is coming and the games have started to drop already so just quit hating

Posted by icedbirdman - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:12 AM

dougdangger
wheres your source?

Posted by audallas84 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:13 AM

wow, deathsdelivery, I must've struck a nerve.

Only two games worth playing? obviously everyone in the gaming world disagrees with you because all the titles I named, both 360 and PS3 got perfect reviews on not only G4, but Gameinformer, gamespy, ect. ect.

As for being banned on XBL, you only get banned if you cheat or mess with your hardware. I've been on XBL since it started on the original Xbox and I still play with the same group of 40 people, none of us being even threatened with a ban.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:16 AM

@audallas84


Old ass titles who cares now,developers already stated that X-platform games will start life on the PS3 hardware, meaning Equally made game, if not better for 360,
making 360 games smoother in detail,
and better looking.
The Tomb Raider camp is the first, but will not be the last, to say that the flexibility
given on PSN is better for developers who want to make awesome ass DLoadable content, XBL while not as strict as they used to be, is still rigid enough to make radical game dev.
look to the PSN for the freedom that they need.
Tell those monkeys at MS to lighten up, because that is a big deal wether you know it or not.

Posted by audallas84 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:17 AM

wow, deathsdelivery, I must've struck a nerve.

Only two games worth playing? obviously everyone in the gaming world disagrees with you because all the titles I named, both 360 and PS3 got perfect reviews on not only G4, but Gameinformer, gamespy, ect. ect.

As for being banned on XBL, you only get banned if you cheat or mess with your hardware. I've been on XBL since it started on the original Xbox and I still play with the same group of 40 people, none of us being even threatened with a ban.

Posted by KratosFan - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:18 AM

from dougdangger-
"This is good news for XBox users because we don't want a monopoly. Monopoly gives a company the power to give you garbage and you have no choice but to consume it. Just look at the history of the Playstation."
"screwing up the console market like Sony did."
@dougdangger-
Here you go again, spouting the most ignorant hist. In case you were wondering, Sony has been in the console market a LOT longer than Microsoft. You remember the PS1? You know, the grey box that dominated the N64? Sony revolutionized the console market, they didn't screw it up.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:19 AM

funny how Sony said "rumble features are LAST GENERATION" that's why they took it out of the PS3 initially.

Now they're bringing it back and want you to pay EXTRA for it.

LOL! Gotta love the irony.


Sony LOST more exclusives the first year than the PS2 GAINED... so sorry sony boys, PS3 will trail behind everyone else.

Posted by KratosFan - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:21 AM

Microsoft entered the console market to turn a profit. They didn't get into it to help gamers. You're about as smart as a chicken running around with it's head cut off.

Wait, not even that smart. What rock did you crawl out from underneath? In what igloo did your parents commit the act of incest that produced the breathing lump of lard that is you?

Posted by ratshady - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:21 AM

Either console MGS4 comes out for i'm going to buy it cus I got both systems.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:22 AM

You damn right, lets say you buy a xbox 360 , it RROD on you, you send it in, they fix it for free, then you start playing agian , whoops RROD again, send it in, you have to pay,
S o I buy a new one same thing, another one same thing, and yet another one(gears of war is that awesome to me) same thing happens, would you still have the same stock in that company that continually screwed you over,

I am a converted ex-xbot, now Sony Good durable hardware, with software not to far off in the future, besides Elder Scrolls when the 360 launched all it had was soupped up sports games
which I don't care about, plus patience is a virtue and if you think PS3 does not have games worth palying, you have not played it.
Where most rely on reviews from others, I deal with exp. and Sony ahll rise again.

Posted by KratosFan - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:23 AM

still @dougdangger-
Sony lost the exclusives because the 360 was being released a year earlier. It was a business venture on the part of those companies.

Imagine if everything was reversed and the PS3 had come out first? It would have more games, it would have more exclusives, stuff like that. You just don't understand business maneuvers, do you?

Posted by EVAzero - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:23 AM

I could care less about MGS4. Am I the only one who isn't impressed with the trailers? I think they suck and I don't see why people care for the game so much from them. The fight scene is the worst! Stupid.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:23 AM

"You remember the PS1? You know, the grey box that dominated the N64?"

The PSOne had MANY MANY MANY garbage games. Majority of N64 games were FAR FAR better than the trash from the PSOne.

Sony had NOTHING that can touch Mario64, Zela OOT and Golden Eye.


"Sony revolutionized the console market, they didn't screw it up."

They screwed it up. The market was great when Nintendo and Sega was duking it out.

The market will be fine without Sony.

Posted by audallas84 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:28 AM

Mass Effect, Bioshock, Halo 3 and Naruto are titles that have shipped within the last few months.

As for shared titles running smoother on the PS3, no, not really. go read the reviews for the shared titles. most will say that the graphics actually look worse. If you want some examples go to gamespy and read their reviews for rainbow six and the orange box if you want some examples.

And once again, what developers are you talking about? you have yet to name any. And what freedom are you talking about? you know as well as I do that sony will regulate it's content just as much as ms does because it doesn't want kids downloading inappropriate content.

Posted by KratosFan - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:28 AM

STILL @ dougdangger-
Go read the thread a couple postings up about the Xbox Ultimate. G4, a better authority on all things gaming, is saying that this new Xbox would have the power of a PS3.

Incontrovertible proof that the PS3 has superior hardware.

@Fellow commenters-
I need some help trying to convince this histface to get his head out of his ass. I guess being the inferior form of life that he is makes it hard for him to listen to reason.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:28 AM

"Microsoft entered the console market to turn a profit."

If you weren't an idiot, you'd know that Microsoft LOST big time with the original XBox and barely made a profit.

They also aren't profitting very well with the 360. Microsoft makes most of its money with software and the numerous investments they make outside the computer world.


Sony makes major profit by selling people 5h1tty electronics to morons and charging an arm and a leg.

Posted by KratosFan - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:30 AM

@dougdangger-
I said they tried to turn a profit. Doesn't mean they succeeded. And if you don't like the game market, get out.

Besides, if the consoles that Sony makes are such pieces of crap, then why are they the most well-known corporation around the world for video games? Why do people buy the product if it sucks?

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:35 AM

Sony WAS a leader in the tv world, not anymore.

Samsung, Panasonic, Toshiba and Sharp are just a few tv manufacturers who make BETTER and CHEAPER tvs than Sorny.


I'm glad that Sorny is not making as many PCs as they used to. Their desktops were overpriced POS while their laptops get urinated on by cheaper and better ones from Dell, Toshiba, Fujitsu, HP and Acer.

Sony = crap.

Posted by KratosFan - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:35 AM

@dougdangger-
I'm about to lose my stance on the fact that the fanboy war should be over by now, and really take Sony's side. I can't believe the stupid tihs that you're spouting.

Whatever, though. You're entitled to your wrong opinion.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:36 AM

Thats because alot of companies are still porting from 360 to PS3, if its reversed than games on both systems will be better.Your not reading what I am posting properly dicksnot,not old games,, the new ones need to start life on the PS3 for a smooth transition
when you port inferior code to a supieror machine, the game will suffer

White engine, which is FF 13 and verus 13 is running on, cannot be ran on the 360,
Plus this is weird, Square-Enix has bought a Unreal engine licence, for an up coming shooter game for the 360.

I am not talking about movies and show dls,
I am talking about game-related content, I am in school to develope games, and MS has restrictions left and right, aside from file size regulations, that Sony sees as being ridiculous.

Posted by hetman - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:36 AM

@kratosfan. That is not true. Nintendo is and will always be synonomys with gaming. Nintendo is a company that is over 100 years old. They are way more well known for gaming than sony will every be. Espicailly when you look at the success of the wii.

Posted by KratosFan - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:37 AM

Not where game consoles come in. I'll give you the computers, and the TVs, but that's it.

Posted by KratosFan - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:39 AM

@hetman-
My last comment was not directed at you. It was meant for the ignorant kcufssa that calls himself dougdangger.

BTW dougdangger, "dangger" only has one g, you stupid kcufasskcid.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:40 AM

"As for shared titles running smoother on the PS3, no, not really. go read the reviews for the shared titles. most will say that the graphics actually look worse."

True.

Madden 08 is choppy and slow on the PS3

Assassin's Creed is also choppy and slow on the PS3.


PS3 is a hype machine. If you take out blowray, there is nothing special about it.

The 360 is a far superior hardware.

Sony says that they hardware is a "supercomputer". Then how come the supercomputer of a PS2 is outgunned in power by a Celeron powered X-Box1? LOL!

Sony is all about gimmicks.

Watch your back, they might send their "giant enemy crabs" after you.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:40 AM

5H1tty electronics are built in this country,
thats why Iphones are so amazing to people here, but in j@pan their like..Meh!
After the BS I went through with MS, I even changed my OS and use bootcamp to run my emulators.

Posted by MrBig200 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:42 AM

@hetman

yes keep telling your self that if it will make you better tonight

Posted by grunto - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:44 AM

MGS4 not being on 360 is a suprise to who? and @ dougdanger, wtf are u babling about, this is a console war not a friggin tv/computer war. also @ sum1 who said GTA4 exclusive 360 content is system selling..... no1 is going to fork over 350$ just to get a few extra cars and a small extended storyline. if GTA4 is a system seller it will be for both consoles with the side kicker of the consoles other games which the ps3 will have the advantage by the time GTA comes out(poker refrence). also Rockstar still supports sony over M$. hence the delay so the game can run better on ps3 hardware.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:45 AM

"BTW dougdangger, "dangger" only has one g, you stupid kcufasskcid. "

It's not supposed to "danger" moron. It's "dang-ger".

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:48 AM

"also Rockstar still supports sony over M$. hence the delay so the game can run better on ps3 hardware."

Rockstar didn't do it for their love for Sorny. They didn't it so that one version wouldn't be rubbish. A rubbish title isn't something big developers look forward to.

So yes, Rockstar had to sweat bullets, develop the PS3 version 3 times longer and cost 3 times more. Smart huh.

Posted by audallas84 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:49 AM

or GTA is delayed because the PS3 is harder to develop for

Posted by hetman - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:50 AM

@mrbig200. Go outside and ask random people of all age groups to name a game console. I gurantee most people will say nintendo. They are the first and they have a completly devoted fan base in Japan. The gamecube which might be one of the worst consoles ever made did really well in Japan. How do you explain that if it is not for customer loyalty and brand recognition?

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:55 AM

"GTA is delayed because the PS3 is harder to develop for"

100% correct.

The 360's version has been ready MONTHS ago. Rockstar had to delay for several months because the PS3 version is crap. So now, instead of developing the sequel to GTA4 or another great game, they have to waste time and money trying to make the PS3's version to come close to the 360s.

Smart.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:59 AM

@hetman


I goota admit I was one of those loyal, yet stupid nintendo lovers, but I hate them now,
I wish and its only my wish, that they would go the way of Sega. PS3 and 360 versions of Metroid or Zelda, Smash Bro. with Samus vs, Master Queef. Now thats a wish I wish I would get.

Posted by milhouse91 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:59 AM

I haven't even finished MGS3 yet! Sons of Liberty was such a scarring experience that I don't think I care about Guns of the Patriots. I still can't get naked Raiden cartwheels out of my head.

Posted by hetman - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:02 PM

@deathsdelivery. I can be seeing upset in the game cube. But seriously the wii has gotten me back on bored with nintendo. SMG is almost perfect if you ask me.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:05 PM

"I goota admit I was one of those loyal, yet stupid nintendo lovers, but I hate them now,
I wish and its only my wish, that they would go the way of Sega. "

I guess you hate innovation. Nintendo is the only company that is truly innovative in this generation.

Sony has done nothing but copy Nintendo and Microsoft.

Sony copied the Wii's motion sensing. Sony copied Microsoft's online play, wireless controller and hard drive in a console.

Sony does NOT innovate. Massive damage for Sony.

Posted by EliteWiitard - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:08 PM

Wow 100 comments.....and I haven't read any of them.

Posted by XxGodsMistakeXx - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:09 PM

dougdangger i love u for pointing out what i have been saying for about a year and a half now.

Also yaaaaaa 101st post

Posted by XxGodsMistakeXx - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:10 PM

damn u elite u took my posting spot now i was a lame 102 and 103 post

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:13 PM

@dougdangger


No, I love innovation,
But I doubt flailing my arms around, and playing games that looked bad 2 years ago to
be that innovative, Its like the virtual boy all over again, except with success.
FK Nintendo.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:17 PM

"No, I love innovation,
But I doubt flailing my arms around, and playing games that looked bad 2 years ago to
be that innovative,"

I'm sure the guys at Nintendo who drive around in $100,000 cars, live in expensive homes and has the burden of having sex with 3 hot chicks at the same time care a lot of what you have to say about their console.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:19 PM

Like you should punk.

Posted by dillybar - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:20 PM

@dougdangger "Sony has done nothing but copy Nintendo and Microsoft."

Thats one of the dumbist things ive read here in a while....congrats on making me laugh

Posted by XxGodsMistakeXx - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:23 PM

Deathsdelivery i realize your temper so don't get pissed but aren't u being a little unreasonable all Nintendo is trying to do is to reach out to a new group of people. Its part of there strategy to take over the world. Once everyone plays a Nintendo they'll sell a Mario game that hypnotizes people to destroy their PS3s and 360s.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:25 PM

"Thats one of the dumbist things ive read here in a while....congrats on making me laugh"

Let's see, N64 launched with an analog controller, PSone didn't even know what analog was. Sony copied with the dual stick analog.

N64 launched with rumble features, PSOne didn't even know what rumble was. Sony copied with the dual shock controller.


Yep, I'd say Sorny is a copycat.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:27 PM

@Anorexic_Panda


I almost forgot to take my blood-pressure pills, and Nintendo killed it for me when they said screw the hardcore gamers, when it was us that made them what they are today, if I had known they would pull this I would have gone with Sega. But kcuf both of them.

Posted by anonomousperson - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:28 PM

MGS will sell PS3s just as much as Halo3 sold 360s. It all boils down to the fans and who is willing to spend what to play what games. I personally am waiting till I get a bigger apartment to get a PS3 so I can also get my 56" LCD tv to play my 360, PS3, PS2, XBOX, and WII. Big party over at my place in a year. BYOB and bring me some, hahaha.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:29 PM

@dougdangger


And I know your a ridiculous dicksnot by saying that Sony copied MS, when MS entered
the gaming world after seeing Sony Surpass Nintendo at its own game.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:35 PM

"Nintendo killed it for me when they said screw the hardcore gamers, when it was us that made them what they are today"

Nintendo has NEVER been all about "hardcore" gaming. They have always been "tame" and "kid friendly". They took out blood and violence that the Sega system had. The Gamecube has always been aimed at kids.

Nintendo is smart by going after the rest of the population that don't play video games. Those people far outnumber the hardcore gamers.

Nintendo catered to a segment of the population that didn't care about videogames. Now they have more money than they know what to do with.

They can care not what hardcore gamers think of them if it brings them money. Besides, if you don't like swinging your arms side to side, you can always play with a Gamecube controller.

I think you're just looking for ways to hate Nintendo for their success.

Posted by Piratejoe - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:37 PM

I am not saying this as a fanboy, but I don't think MGS4 is not going to sell that many PS3 (in the US) to people who don't already love Metal Gear(like me). Ture the game is the best looking game so far, but that type of game just wont sell to the mainstream gamer in the US. It is games like Killzone 2 and God of War3 that will sell the PS# in the US.

Posted by decept - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:38 PM

How did sony copy online? Please tell me, you can t call yourselves gamers if you dont own all three consoles or least support them all. I doubt this is a war, just trying to entertain but both sides make errors.

Posted by decept - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:39 PM

How did sony copy online? Please tell me, you can t call yourselves gamers if you dont own all three consoles or least support them all. I doubt this is a war, just trying to entertain but both sides make errors.

Posted by tdbridges52 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:40 PM

No Duh, MGS 4 isn't coming to the 360 but MGS4 Substance is in 2009. Oh Konami the lies you tell lol

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:42 PM

"And I know your a ridiculous dicksnot by saying that Sony copied MS, when MS entered
the gaming world after seeing Sony Surpass Nintendo at its own game."

What an idiot you are. Microsoft gaming studios have been around before the Sorny's PSOne came out.

Microsoft got smart by going after a segment of the market, and that is the one who loves PC games but can't afford the rig to play them.

To have a decent gaming PC, you'd have to spend atleast $1,000 (fast cpu, lots of ram, high end vga card, monitor...) it gets pricey.

Now I can buy an XBox 360 for $279 and start playing kick ass "PC games". I can barely get a graphics card alone for $300.

Posted by XxGodsMistakeXx - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:43 PM

Not going to comment on Killzone 2 because Deathdelivery will try and stab me.

Doug i agree Sony has copied before. My only complaint with ur post is I don't think non gamers outnumber gamers. Wasn't it like 90% of guys play videogames and 60% of girls play videogames.

I have seen the Wii convert people before. Christmas 06 i was busy playing Zelda on my new Wii when my Grandma comes into the room and
her exacted words were get off i want to bowl. As u can imagine i was pissed

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:44 PM

"How did sony copy online?"

PS2 didn't debut with anyway to connect to the internet.

X-Box did. Sorny later came out with their broadband adapter.

PS2 didn't debut with a hard drive.

X-Box did. Sorny later came out with a hard drive that only one game hardly even used.


Sony does not innovate.

Posted by decept - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:44 PM

btw dougdangger, your an complete halfwit. Stop contradicting yourself, read a damn book for godsake(not a schieße Halo book or anything like that)

Posted by decept - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:46 PM

btw dougdangger, your an complete halfwit. Stop contradicting yourself, read a damn book for godsake(not a schieße Halo book or anything like that)

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:46 PM

@dougdangger



Yeah MK 2 on snes was lamed down, and I had every system including the famicoms and SF,
gameboys even had a DS, so if I was looking for reasons to hate Nintendo, then why would I give them money, I liking nintendo stopped mid-way through the gamecube/PS2 era.I was always defending Nintendo from Sega lovers.

They stated their audience for the Wii is not the hardcore gamer, so I, being a hardcore gamer, abandoned them.Tried Xbox 306, got bricked alot, so until they have more than 3 decent games,MS, and this is from what I have played, not from the majority opinion, which it seems you rely on, I will stick with Sony, and if not Sony, or the 360, the only systems
that cater to hardcore gamers.KcuF Nintendo

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:48 PM

The Wii captured the attention of housewives, grand parents, aunts and uncles who have never once touched a game console.

Majority of those people don't care about high def graphics, cell cpu that wipes your ass or playing movies and controlling it with a banana with buttons.

They just want to have fun and that is where the Wii succeeds 100%... fun.

Posted by decept - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:48 PM

btw dougdangger, your an complete halfwit. Stop contradicting yourself, read a damn book for godsake(not a schieße Halo book or anything like that)

Posted by decept - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:52 PM

btw dougdangger, your an complete halfwit. Stop contradicting yourself, read a damn book for godsake(not a schieße Halo book or anything like that)

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:52 PM

Sony had a development team making games for both SNES and Genesis, before MS studios came along, and while you are broke gamer, I have
a computer that can run Gow and Bioshock with better graphics, sound, and gameplay.


And as far as innovation, ohh, a console that can play watered down PC titles, very original.
At least Sony is not trying to follow suit with that crap, and if most gaming is going online, would you release a system without online capabilities, if so, your stupid.

Posted by decept - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:54 PM

btw dougdangger, your an complete halfwit. Stop contradicting yourself, read a damn book for godsake(not a schieße Halo book or anything like that)

Posted by realitysux21 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:56 PM

refreshing brings 20 comments!!!!!
wow
this might be the most commented thread EVER
lol

Posted by XxGodsMistakeXx - Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:56 PM

damn it decept stop posting that

Posted by PunkALive21 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:01 PM

no offense to 360 fans but i wouldnt even want this game.
I mean 360 doesnt even have blu-ray...would you want to have to change the disc for every mission?
ha dont think so.
Konami already said it would use almost all the sapce on a blu-ray disc.,..thats like 5 and a half dvd9's that the 360 uses.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:01 PM

"Sony had a development team making games for both SNES and Genesis, before MS studios came along"

Sony was just making coffee and giving Nintendo and Sega back rubs... I wouldn't call that developing.

Microsoft had ITS OWN gaming department before Sony even knew what games were.


"and while you are broke gamer, I have
a computer that can run Gow and Bioshock with better graphics, sound, and gameplay."

Wow! I am amazed.


"And as far as innovation, ohh, a console that can play watered down PC titles, very original."

It only becomes watered down YEARS after you get my left overs. I enjoy the Halo and GOW series long BEFORE you do. Also, playing it on hardware that costs 4 times of mine... I'm not surprised its better.


Sony is a copy cat, plain and simple.

Posted by anonomousperson - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:01 PM

dougdangger: do you think xbox is original? besides being next gen, it isnt. It just offers different software to the massively growing console wars and the weapons are features and games.

Posted by M4Dash - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:04 PM

wait i thought this was about MGS4, but its just a flamewar between consoles. i suggest you edit the topic cuz ppl will get confused.

me dinks dat ppl of thee creem Xbot 6O3 dingamajig should jess bee all like no sound lyke ann con_tin_new to play with the halo man and dutyhead 4 and tangerine box with its portal and castles and cake ann bee like no talking lyke it dont matter munch but when you like talk all purity like its a meana u r lyke all afray and jealous and in_sue_cure dat dis game is(sp)gonna be doood?, dude?, goood? (in_ga_lish not my 1st lan_goo_which) and wish ura wii 2 cume.

Posted by XxGodsMistakeXx - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:05 PM

Punk i honesty have no idea what the hell u just said how many typos were in that comment damn

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:05 PM

"do you think xbox is original? besides being next gen, it isnt."

The X-Box1 was ORIGINAL. No other console offered online gaming. No other console had a built in hard drive. No other console offered more hardware power. Yes, its Celeron based cpu was far more powerful than Sony's emotionless engine.

Sony is a copy cat, plain and simple.


Btw, the PSP is a failure. The DS spits on its face.

Posted by hetman - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:10 PM

The wii does cater to hardcore gamers. I gurantee most if not all hardcore gamers love the new metriod, zelda, and mario. That is only three games but three really good games. Once you add the value of the VC and the cheapness of the wii itself. It is just silly when anyone says the wii is not a great console.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:10 PM

Sorny needs blowray because they need all the space for their FMVs.

Sorny thinks that it's more fun sitting there watching FMVs than it is to actually be playing in real time.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:11 PM

I would rather wait and play it right, then to play it at its lowest form, thats the problem with most, I said most, Xbots, They act like if they have to wait for something, it takes away from the game, too bad.

Halo sucks ass, keep it, and while I am playing Crysis, while your waiting for your little watered down copy.

Like I said, quality over rushed as games and systems, I give it to nintendo at least they did'nt release something that might explode,
and the MS peripheral is the same, watch out it might explode.or just crap out on you, scratch up your games, then brick.

Posted by fedaykin0 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:15 PM

M4Dash, i have A LOT of trouble believing that "in_ga_lish" is not your first language. i think you're just some schmuck without a real opinion who feels they have to type all st00pid lyke to get people to notice you. congrats, you're a moron.

Posted by Jimbodawg - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:15 PM

My Grandpa plays Dr. Mario on his SNES. He wishes it'd come out on the Wii VC. Nintendo is great at making consoles, but most of good Wii games are from 3rd party developers. (Except Red Steel, that sux) The 360 is also a great console, I play Halo 3 all the time. When it RROD'd I bought a Wii and basically played for a week and then gave it to my sister. (She's 9) I got a PS3, and Warhawk and Oblivion, and I can't put it down. I still occasionally play Halo 3 & Small Arms on my 360, but overall I play my PS3 more than anything.

All three consoles are great, so just try them all, and stop saying which is better. Because everyone is different, you'll never get a final answer.

Posted by anonomousperson - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:18 PM

If they were so original, then why did they abandon some of the things that made them original in the first place? On the 360, no built in hard drive unless you paid extra. The PS3 can be just as original as xbox1 cause it offers bluetooth and built in blue-ray reader. I think MS is copying Sony. They saw how many attachments people had to buy so they are moving towards that and Sony is trying to sell an all-in-one package.

Posted by XxGodsMistakeXx - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:20 PM

I wonder how long this flamewar on this post will last, I'm going to try to end it.

Every system rules in its own little way and every system sucks in its own little way. If u disagree your just an ignorant fanboy

Wii- Fun, Cheap/ Lack of hardcore games, no next-gene graphics
PS3- Free online, great graphics/ very expensive, does copy a bit
360- An increadible lineup of games, Great graphics/ No free online play, most likely will break on you


P.S i have all of these systems so i know what the hell I'm talking about. I'm not a fanboy of any of these consoles but having said that i am completely against PC gaming i don't think real gamers use PC so suck it

Posted by anonomousperson - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:27 PM

I agree with Panda. There is no more originality except in great games. It is merely an addition to a great idea in the first place. Just be happy you have a system you like with games you like to play on it and do just that.

Posted by Spike3 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:37 PM

I find it extremely funny how 360 fanboys stated that mgs4 would be on the 360 and now that it's not going to the 360 they're bashing mgs4.

WOW, you know what fking u 360 fanboys.



Go blow yourselfs up with that RROD and take you're whole house with u in the explosion.




I'm tired of you're immature comments, and now none of U HAVE THE BALLS TO STAND UP AND SAY '' I WAS WRONG'' AND NOW U BASH MGS4 CAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO THE 360.


Go play all those games u claim the 360 has, I've been having fun recently with my ps3. :


psn id: spike874 feel free to add. :)

Posted by hetman - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:38 PM

I will not be happy until I have a robot I can play halo on and also have it do my evil deeds. Im sorry but I just do not see nintendo or sony providing me with such a console. So I will stick it out with microsoft until then.

Posted by fedaykin0 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:39 PM

Panda, are you an FPS fan?

Posted by moisesgrande - Thursday, January 3, 2008 1:54 PM

I think MGS4 can only play with a ultimate console ps3. I love my ps3 and I buy when was $600 only for MGS4 and I know the ppl like me do the same thing ^_^

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:04 PM

I always found it weird that when I had my 360,
it would read my PSP perfectly, and it would say something like Sony PSP found, and I could even play PS1 games on it, like Castlevania:SoN

Posted by Alienkid - Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:15 PM

Sux for the 360 fanboys who think ps3's suck for the sole fact that Halo isn't on it.... Who will all reply with MGS/Sony sux!!1!one!exclaimation!!1!!!1 11!!

Posted by MikeTheGreekGod - Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:17 PM

lame rite up......

Posted by LEAF3 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:17 PM

Please everyone (xbox360fans), Quiet down, Quiet down, Well turn off your 360's its too loud. Alright go play that boring ass Mass Effect and Halo 3 and stop complaining about MGS4 not coming out on the Xbox360. Another thing, stop kissing Microsoft ass and trade that loud vaccum cleaner (xbox360) and get yourself a ps3. And start playing the games that are not coming to the 360, GT5 Prologue, God of war 3, just to name of few.

Posted by LEAF3 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:19 PM

Please everyone (xbox360fans), Quiet down, Quiet down, Well turn off your 360's its too loud. Alright go play that boring ass Mass Effect and Halo 3 and stop complaining about MGS4 not coming out on the Xbox360. Another thing, stop kissing Microsoft ass and trade that loud vaccum cleaner (xbox360) and get yourself a ps3. And start playing the games that are not coming to the 360, GT5 Prologue, God of war 3, just to name of few.

Posted by Lavat - Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:19 PM

Lets go for the most commented on post of 08. BTW this is the second time Konami and Kojima have stated that MGS4 will only be on the PS3. Maybe they said it about 4 other times...I think...

But it is highly unlikely that it will come to the 360 down the road. As since MGS3 only stayed on the PS3.

Posted by THEAMAZINGLEAF - Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:20 PM

WHO LIKES 3SUCKSDY??? anyone really or could you not just wait until KING PS3 came out. you wouldn't even be able to play GREAT games like MGS4/KILLZONE2/FINAL FANTACY13 on the 3SUCKSDY. What would microSUCKsoft sell them on 3 discs..........SHELLY......... .COMEON............and a rumor of a ULTIMATE 3SUCKSDY COMEON who wants to pay 600.00 for a CONSOLE..........WHA...WHA.... keep DREAMING sucksdy owners.

Posted by Lavat - Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:20 PM

PS2...PS5...PS6. PS10000

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:32 PM

"Halo sucks ass, keep it,"

For a game that sucked ass, it's certainly the best selling and has had the biggest launch EVER of any game, console or PC.

Suck on it.

Posted by demby123 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:39 PM

lol best flamewar ever...
puts away popcorn ,fires up resistanceFOM

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:41 PM

On any given time of the day, there are atleast 300,000 people playing Halo 3 online.

Infact, there are still thousands of people who play Halo 2.

How many people are playing Killzone?

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Posted by Cloud_5 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:47 PM

*Sigh*

Live and let live I say. Each system needs killer apps. Who cares what system it come out on? As long as it's good then let it be.

This is ridiculous. It's like PSP owners begging for Pokemon. Just get the damn system if you want it so bad!

Posted by hetman - Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:48 PM

Or warhawk for that matter. I gurantee the two most played games on psn are COD4 and Orange box. And neither of them are exclusives.

Posted by michaelrgarcia - Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:52 PM

just cant wait to play mgs4 i realy dont care if it comes onto the 360 and even if it did it would be a long time afterwards and wouldnt even matter. its sorta of like lost planet but i really dont think you can even campare mgs4 and lost plant

Posted by Jimbodawg - Thursday, January 3, 2008 3:03 PM

Thank's to this flamewar, my dog died.

j/k

But seriously, come on, MGS4 is not that great of a game to start nonsense over which console is better, all consoles are good.

They need to make the Playstabox (and add some useless motion sensing for obese kids)

Posted by michaelrgarcia - Thursday, January 3, 2008 3:04 PM

spike i sent you a invite on the psn

Posted by Jimbodawg - Thursday, January 3, 2008 3:07 PM

My PSN is GoArtekis
I added you Spike
Also my XBL is GoArtekis

Posted by michaelrgarcia - Thursday, January 3, 2008 3:12 PM

my psn is polo91

Posted by Jimbodawg - Thursday, January 3, 2008 3:22 PM

Here's the right Gamepro link:
http://gamepro.com/news.cfm? article_id=154608

Posted by S14DGENER8 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 4:00 PM

"MSG4 may be a great game but it is not a system seller. It does not have the mass appeal that games like Halo and SMG have."

it may not be a system seller but it's greater quality than Halo 3 for sure. never played SMG so I cant say anything about that

Posted by LEAF3 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 4:06 PM

Yo jimbodawg, how the hell is mgs4 not great of a game. 1) you haven't played it 2)You seen the mgs4 trailers and clips and assumed that is not going to be a great game 3) You probably didn't understand the mgs storyline. I bet when MGS4 comes your gonna be the first one in line.

Posted by deathsdelivery - Thursday, January 3, 2008 4:10 PM

@dougdangger
and your point is that their are alot of retarded people who love half-ass games, and are probablly not FPS purist.

Posted by TheRedStar - Thursday, January 3, 2008 4:12 PM

@hetman have you ever palyed a PS3?? wow dude WTF!! Sony does do charity stuff Folding@Home comes standard in ever PS3.

@audallas84:RROD is still an issue if you really worked w/ a 360 then you would realize the flaw is in the design. It doesn't manage energy efficiently which cauzes the overheating. The newer ones may be better at dealing w/the problem but what about the 10million+ in house holds that predate the fixing??

@EVAzero Cut sceens aren't what MGS is all about if you knew the story then everything in the cut sceens would make sense. I've been playing MetalGear since NES. That's how long and creapy this story is cauz Hideo has been right for the last 20yrs...

Posted by LEAF3 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 4:21 PM

Yo jimbodawg, how the hell is mgs4 not great of a game. 1) you haven't played it 2)You seen the mgs4 trailers and clips and assumed that is not going to be a great game 3) You probably didn't understand the mgs storyline. I bet when MGS4 comes your gonna be the first one in line.

Posted by Jedihunter15 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 4:29 PM

Wow. Look at this. You know, this is getting out of hand. To be honest, i dont think anyone on here even talked about how they wish they would have gotten a PS3 so they could get MGS4. Im not gonna lie, i never played the game. But All i know is that their new enemies known collectivly as Beauty and the Beast. You cant tell me that isnt the gayest name for an enemy ever. When a PS3 game opens with 170 million in 24 hours, then come talk about the 360. Until then, you can keep lieing to yourselves about how you get on the PSN.

Just remember, that was the biggest opening in entertainment HISTORY. It shut Time Square the KCUF down. Lets see if MGS4 shuts any GNIKCUF street down, let alone sell half as many as Halo3 did. Killzone? Really? Thats gonna blow harder than that gay clown at my friends 13th bday party.The same goes with LittleBigPlanet, and Gran Turismo, for that matter.

Posted by Colonol_Carter - Thursday, January 3, 2008 4:30 PM

come every body should have known it wasnt goin to go the 360 just by the 15 gameplay video a long time ago its to advanced for the 360. maybe the next xbox will have it

Posted by NONameforyou - Thursday, January 3, 2008 4:42 PM

@deathsdeliver What is your problem? Honestly you are what is wrong with this planet. Youre an idiot who is too blinded by hate to make any sense. You need to realize that you are not God and your opinion really doesnt matter. Let other people make their own choices. Also stop taking video games so seriously. Concentrate on something important like the war or the next president.

Posted by nonsmoker101 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 4:42 PM

ummm if any cares for my oppinion i say i spend a hell o lot of time on my ps3...

do you think their is no games? well if i play 7 games constantly means their is no games...
i own resistance,call of duty 4,guitar hero 3,rock band,ratchet and clank 5,the eye of judgement,unreal tournament 4 and warhawk.

i'm saving for metal gear solid 4,killzone 2, little big planet,devil may cry 4,turok and final fantasy 13 versus

some of those are multiplatefore but i'm glad to have them....

i have barely had a lag in my psn.
i can't wait for home!
i have no way to say xbox 360 is worse but i love my playstation 3.
if metal ger solid 4 is not a system seller than why is it reaching over 200 comments?

Posted by Jedihunter15 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 5:15 PM

Nonsmoker101, what the hell does 200+ comments mean when it comes to a videogame selling good. Its not like everyone that has posted gives a TIHS about MGS4. The game looks gay. It sounds gay as well. A cartwheeling naked old guy? Thats gonna sell systems? Give me a break...

Posted by Spike3 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 5:49 PM

please!!!!!!!!!! Stop it.


I know why 360 fanboys bash the ps3. It all makes sense and I would do the same.

You see, this is the reality of the life of 360 fanboys.


This is what happened to dougdannger's brother when he turned on his 360 and got RROD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch ?v=H1sS1TmXF38&feature=related

Posted by Spike3 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 5:51 PM

srry ttry ths link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =H1sS1TmXF38

Posted by Spike3 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 5:53 PM

crap, it does'nt work, oh well I'll use it at n4g, just type in atomic bomb in youtube and you'll see what I mean. :)

Posted by Solidsnake60 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 6:13 PM

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Posted by LEAF3 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 7:07 PM

This year Xbox360 and Microsoft will kneel before the PS3

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:12 PM

PS3 is Sony's biggest disappointment.

One year after the PSOne, it had plenty of great games and exclusives and made lots of money.

One year after the PS2, it had plenty of great games and exclusives and made losts of money.

One year after the PS3, it didn't have a single system selling games and lost many exclusives and lost billions of dollars.


What a shame.

Posted by XxGodsMistakeXx - Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:30 PM

Fedeykin0 or however ur name is spelled. I'm open to any type of game currently i own a lot of FPS but i also have games like oblivion, guitar hero, heavenly sword and mario galaxy. I'm the same with movies and music i have no preferences just what ever is good

Posted by tanker58p - Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:33 PM

doungdangger conparing the ps3 to the ps1 and ps2 does not make any sense. if Sony where to just shoot out games (good) they wont be up to par as if you where to put the game out for the ps2 or ps1 it takes time so you feel like you are playing a next gen and not a last gen. anyways that story shows you that g4 is a xbox fan making up a story after konami said that the game is not going to go to the xbox 360.

Posted by Roy2008 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:44 PM

Ha Ha and ummm HA!
you Xbot fan boys have been going around with so many rumors!

Such as "they will have to release it on 360 to make the money up for all of thier delays!"

and the truth is Revealed! FINALLY!
So Shut your Yammering Skull Caves!

Posted by TheRedStar - Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:51 PM

I'm glad it's not being ported that is a GOOD SIGN. Why may ask, beacuse it preludes that the game possibly uses 50% or more of PS3's power. If that is true then the game can't be ported even if they wanted to beacuse the game would be too much for the 360's processor to handel. Games on that lvl is what i bought a PS3 for. I've said it before and I'll say it again CROSSPLATFORM = NOT GOOD (for PS3 owners). The most powerful game on 360 will only use 50% of PS3's power at most. PS3 games that use 50% and higher will not be capable of being ported.

Posted by TheRedStar - Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:58 PM

@Jedihunter15: thank you for makeing the most ignorant comment in the last few posts. You don't even know what MGS is about do you. Anybody who's ever payed the series will know this game is gona be great. I've been palying METAL GEAR since NES. It's that good, every installment is better than the last. MGS isn't one of thoes games that you can judge by the trailers or clips, cauz the trailers and clips are really directed to ME (fans of the series). We know about RAY, REX, liquid, Olga, and the FoxDie virus. The elements form the trailer to an outsider of the series would have you scratching your head but to us hearing that stuff is like a Naruto fan finding out Jayria Dies, or to a potter Fan hearing that Potter got Married!

Posted by TheRedStar - Thursday, January 3, 2008 9:54 PM

@dougdangger: How much Crack are you sniffing?? Crack-heads down the street got more sense than you! MS copies the most out of the 3 companies. MS has never made a inovative idea since Windows 3.1!! HDD in games..Umm Nintendo did HDD 1st. Analog control sticks are only an eveloution of the joystick! Mostly every thing the consoles are doing now was already being done by PC and Arcade games. Online play, Global stats, and even HD Graphics and motion sensors. All of it has been done before what's new I'm a REAL GAMER I play on consles, PC, and even arcade.(Arcade is good for a cheap date, especialy if all you want to do is cut!!)(Another Tip from RedStar)

Posted by jdsonic14 - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:19 PM

i am a xbox player and i want to say leave msg alone. its an ps3 exclusive. get over it. get a ps3 to play it. let ps3 win for once.

Posted by BlueHawaiiSurfe - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:21 PM

I finally have a reason to take a movie out of the PS3 and actually play a game...wake me up when they release a FEW decent games. Until then...I'll be playing the 360...
Fighting over this is teh g h e y though...just buy both systems or be quiet.

Posted by CustosIntusSilentium - Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:39 PM

Yeah, I'm playing it too and it looks like ass, runs like ass, and my system just ate disk 9...OH CRAP! Not the red ring AGAIN!!!

Posted by Tidusjunior - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:17 PM

It be funny if Microsoft came out or Sony came out and said this was a rumor and that it is going on xbox 360. Anyways I be getting the PS3 no matter what but not because of MG4 but because of FF 13 but now I have another reason to get the PS3 now.

Posted by Tidusjunior - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:24 PM

It be funny if Microsoft came out or Sony came out and said this was a rumor and that it is going on xbox 360. Anyways I be getting the PS3 no matter what but not because of MG4 but because of FF 13 but now I have another reason to get the PS3 now.

Posted by Tidusjunior - Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:33 PM

It be funny if Microsoft came out or Sony came out and said this was a rumor and that it is going on xbox 360. Anyways I be getting the PS3 no matter what but not because of MG4 but because of FF 13 but now I have another reason to get the PS3 now.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Friday, January 4, 2008 12:46 AM

it would be so funny if MGS4 becomes the disappointment like many PS3 exclusive games have become.

when I remember how many PS3 fanboy said that Lair would destroy the 360... I get a belly ache of laughter.


How much does it cost to play MGS4?

PS3 = $500
HD cables = $40
Dualshock 3 (available in Japan, soon in the U.S.) = $100 each
MGS4 = $60
======================
Total = $700

No thanks.

Posted by dillybar - Friday, January 4, 2008 1:32 AM

@dougdannger

Why dont you do some research before you open your goddamn mouth...Tell me where you heard the Dualshock cost $100 each...i would LOVE to hear.

Fking babbling morons like you always ruin every thread/forum.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Friday, January 4, 2008 1:41 AM

go to amazon noob.

$700 to play MGS4? HA!

Posted by Tidusjunior - Friday, January 4, 2008 1:46 AM

It be funny if Microsoft came out or Sony came out and said this was a rumor and that it is going on xbox 360. Anyways I be getting the PS3 no matter what but not because of MG4 but because of FF 13 but now I have another reason to get the PS3 now.

Posted by dillybar - Friday, January 4, 2008 1:48 AM

Umm...yeah if you get it imported from japan right now, noob

Look up much it costs in yen then come back

Once again...babbling morons ruin threads/fourms

Posted by Caprice23 - Friday, January 4, 2008 2:17 AM

mgs4 looks tight for a nonwii game that is! I own a Wii and SSBB will provide with all the Solid Snake action i need, but from what i can tell the PS3 is gaining on the 360 fast. The end year results has the ps3 selling 9 million consols worldwide in 12 months and the 360 selling 16 million in over 24 months, of course simple math will tell you the ps3 is selling faster then the 360 did in the same amount of time by about 1 million units. Now the ps3 may never catch up to the 360 because of that year lead but consider the 360 had an amazing year so most people who want one probably own one now, if that's the case and 360 sales slowdown and the ps3 continues like it is it may be a horse race for 2nd place, Wii sold 19.5 million in 12 months.

Posted by Tobi_IsAGoodBoy - Friday, January 4, 2008 3:50 AM

But the 360 has it beat hands down on game experiance and plain fun games on and offline.
Lets Hope good old Bill Gates can offer Hideo Kojima a gift with no realation to Kojima's coincidental timming on making a MGS4 for 360!
hahahaha

Posted by Caprice23 - Friday, January 4, 2008 4:10 AM

Mgs4 is probably to big of a game to fit on a normal size dvd, it probably needs the extra space that blueray provides, unless it came on multiple discs.

Posted by Spike3 - Friday, January 4, 2008 6:43 AM

yo my router broke a few days ago so I'm using a wireless connection from my ps3 to my modem which is far. I can still get online but I'm only at 15 percent maximum in the newtork status.


I'm gonna get a 50ft ethernet cable soon or a new router.


Games planning on buying: Haze,mgs4(mgs online ftw!!!!!!) maybe killzone 2 if the multiplayer is awesome.


I'm currently playing madden and the burnout demo .




Burnout looks like the best racing game I've ever played. :)

Posted by jman03 - Friday, January 4, 2008 7:55 AM

@Tobi_IsAGoodBoy

1. Bill Gates isn't the CEO of Microsoft anymore, he just owns most of the shares.

2. I'm pretty sure the content they've put into MGS4 (graphical or otherwise) is not capable of fitting on an HD-DVD.

3. Bill Gates might be old, but he's definitely not good. He screwed everyone over with a little thing called Vista. :)

Posted by BlueHawaiiSurfe - Friday, January 4, 2008 8:08 AM

"Yeah, I'm playing it too and it looks like ass, runs like ass, and my system just ate disk 9...OH CRAP! Not the red ring AGAIN!!!"

Hmmmm Madden 08
60fps on the 360
30fps on the PS3
Superior!?!?!? Hardly
No red rings here, no disks eaten (maybe because I know how to read the instructions, I don't know)
I love my PS3, movies never looked better, I already own it so I don't need your pathetic "FAN BOI" rants. I just wish we would see MORE good games. There are a ton of 9+ games on the 360 (exclusives) The games released on both systems I will continue to buy for the 360 to get the ach. points.
Sony will catch up, it's just getting old that a company with such a strong showing "LAST GEN" is taking this long. Can't be a lack of resources.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Friday, January 4, 2008 9:10 AM

it's funny how the future of the PS3 lies in ONE GAME.

If MGS4 comes out and it becomes something like LAIR (remember that Sony hyped it up to be an xbox killer, but it stunk) PS3 will on the bus down to hell.

Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!!11

Posted by AshleyHawkins_Is_Bac - Friday, January 4, 2008 9:16 AM

hawkins3802 PSN ID

Posted by KratosFan - Friday, January 4, 2008 9:19 AM

@dougdangger-
The future of the PS3 doesn't lie in one game.
It lies in games like Haze, God of War 3, Destroy All Humans: Path of the Furon, and (by way of backwards compatibility, on which feature the Xbox is quite limited) Destroy All Humans: Big Willy Unleashed. Also MGS4, Warhawk, Gran Turismo 5, stuff like that.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

Gaming prevails!

Posted by Tidusjunior - Friday, January 4, 2008 9:21 AM

It be funny if Microsoft came out or Sony came out and said this was a rumor and that it is going on xbox 360. Anyways I be getting the PS3 no matter what but not because of MG4 but because of FF 13 but now I have another reason to get the PS3 now.

Posted by xvkc19e - Friday, January 4, 2008 10:36 AM

lol flame G4 puppets, flame! Your all pawns of G4... p.s. isnt anyone excited about metal gear online?

Posted by KratosFan - Friday, January 4, 2008 10:44 AM

They be getting excited all right. Just that some 360 fans got all disappointed that MGS isn't making its way to the 360. This post's flame war is over.

Gaming prevails!

Posted by dillybar - Friday, January 4, 2008 11:27 AM

Hey dougdannger

I fking love how i called you out on the dualshock 3 price and you had nothing to say about it...just change the topic to "ps3 only has one game".

You still havnt came back and told me how much a dualshock 3 costs in yen right now....id like to see if its at all possible for you to spout some correct information. Just tell me one correct thing out of your useless dibble that you call posts. Post something useful, i dare you!

oh but i bet i will just be called a noob again and you will change the topic to something of the effect of "ps3 sux", or some other mindless bs from a 14 year old.

Posted by KratosFan - Friday, January 4, 2008 11:59 AM

@dougdangger-
I'm with dillybar on this one.

Posted by LEAF3 - Friday, January 4, 2008 12:22 PM

DAM DIDN'T HALF OF YOU XBOX 360 FANS TRADED IN YOUR XBOX 360S' JUST TO GET THE XBOX 360 ELITE, DON'T FORGET TO TRADE IN YOUR XBOX 360 ELITE FOR "THE MAGICAL" XBOX360 ULTIMATE. THEN DON'T FORGET TO TRADE IN YOUR XBOX 360 ULTIMATE FOR THE XBOX 720.

Posted by Lavat - Friday, January 4, 2008 12:29 PM

209th post....This will be a new record soon....any who...Sorry again it isn't coming on the 360...you guys lost.

Posted by KratosFan - Friday, January 4, 2008 12:31 PM

@LEAF3-
You forgot to add that the new specs of the Xbox Ultimate would then be as powerful as a PS3. Then and only then.

Posted by Ult_Gamer - Friday, January 4, 2008 4:55 PM

dougdangger or whatever is dicksnot that his father did'nt properly dispose of, tell your father he has to flush the tissue, to get rid of possibly retarded seeds from being born.....Whoops too late.

Posted by TheKei - Friday, January 4, 2008 7:03 PM

People that play Halo don't like MGS because it forces you to use your brain and think.

Posted by ShinGino - Friday, January 4, 2008 10:33 PM

FACT!:

There is a higher chance that Bioshock and Mass Effect (1 and/or 2), make it to the PS3, than MGS4 on 360.

Posted by ShinGino - Friday, January 4, 2008 10:38 PM

FACT:

There is a higher chance of Bioshock and Mass Effect 2,
making it to the PS3, than MGS4 on 360.

Posted by LEAF3 - Friday, January 4, 2008 10:56 PM

Kratosfan
DAM IT TAKES 3 DIFFERENT XBOX360'S MODELS, JUST TO SCRATCH THE SURFACE OF THE PS3'S SPECS. JUST BECAUSE THE ULTIMATE XBOX 360 IS GONNA BE QUIETER AND HAVE A 1080P OUTPUT, 320 HARD DRIVE A BUILT IN HD DVD PLAYER DOESN'T MEAN ITS GONNA HAVE THE SAME PROCESING POWER AS THE PS3.

Posted by dougdangger (BANNED) - Friday, January 4, 2008 10:58 PM

"FACT:

There is a higher chance of Bioshock and Mass Effect 2,
making it to the PS3, than MGS4 on 360. "

MGS4 itself won't. Perhaps maybe MGS4 Substance or Triple Snakes... remember that Sony fanboys said that it was a PS2 exclusive, yet other versions made it over ;-)


MGS games are boring, no replay value and no online fun. I just like seeing sony fanbitches squirm. LOL!

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Saturday, January 5, 2008 6:19 AM

A Konami spokesperson told thegamereviews.com: "For the record, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is a PlayStation 3 exclusive and there are no plans to develop an Xbox 360 version of the game."


nuff said.

Posted by quatzal82384 - Saturday, January 5, 2008 5:00 PM

Sure! Like all the GTAs, Bully and Metal Gear Solid never made it to Xbox!

Posted by TheRedStar - Saturday, January 5, 2008 7:36 PM

@dougdangger: your a perfect example of a 360 fan boy your don't know jack!! MGS has tons of repaly value. I've watched the trailer alone several times. just beacuse I KNEW there was something I missed the 1st time like the strings on the dude who kills his teamates. If you got a HD TV you'd be able to see the strings. I replay the games cauz they are fun and they have tons of things you can side track and do. (most of them comical) Stop bashing a game you've obviouly never played. For you info MGS4 will come with an Online play that I can't wait for.

@BlueHawaiiSurfe..Umm maden not running 60fps is not PS3's fault. It's EA's fault. Their programers are that skilled. Others have had 60fps on PS3 but they remain one of the only people who don't do it. They suck big time.

Posted by TheRedStar - Saturday, January 5, 2008 7:38 PM

sorry typo...I ment to say EA's programers are NOT that skilled...

Posted by Trikkey - Saturday, January 5, 2008 7:53 PM

227 comments for a game that is not a system seller i dont think so

Posted by ShinGino - Saturday, January 5, 2008 7:56 PM

@ dougdangger:

The last Metal Gear for the Xbox was MGS2, after that 6 games were exclusive to Sony systems.
Meaning Konami tasted the Xbox and said no more!

Also, they did say that MGS4 will be the last MGS game EVER! Along with MGO!


@ quatzal82384:

GTA was never exclusive, and neither was Bully.

Posted by Colonol_Carter - Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:17 PM

PS3 = $500
HD cables = $40
Dualshock 3 (available in Japan, soon in the U.S.) = $100 each
MGS4 = $60
======================
Total = $700

hahah omg oh thats funny heres how it goes

ps3-400
mgs4-60
total-460

haha moron u dont have to have the cables u dont have to have the more expensive ps3 or the controler haha

Posted by icedbirdman - Sunday, January 6, 2008 9:51 AM

Colonol_Carter
Where is your source on the Price of the dualshock 3 the price will be the same!!!!

Posted by icedbirdman - Sunday, January 6, 2008 9:57 AM

BlueHawaiiSurfe
idiots like you need to stop the Madden issue as we may call it was a programming issue not an issue with system performance. Madden 08 was the third installment for the 360 and the previous models 30 frames. NBA live the issues was fixed both look and run the same. all the time you idiots look @ the faults of third parties well that issue is no more cause everyone is starting to get on the same page. dont show your ignorance and not give the facts cause even EA aplogize for the grave mistake!!!!

Posted by TheRedStar - Sunday, January 6, 2008 3:11 PM

@ShinGino: the last MGS?? really I heard it was just the last one w/snake in it. Hideo said that Snake was his and that he didn't trust/'want to give it' to anyone. For quite some time now he's been wanting to pass on the MGS Franchise to the next generation of game makers, but i suppose no one has stepped up yet.

Posted by Colonol_Carter - Sunday, January 6, 2008 6:55 PM

@icedbirdman
Where is your source on the Price of the dualshock 3 the price will be the same!!!!

u dont need the dualshock 3 to play the damn game i never put a price on it

Posted by Aztec23 - Sunday, January 6, 2008 9:25 PM

This game is a system seller because all my causin that own a 360 are gonna buy a ps3 just for MGS4.

Posted by AngelbladeVII - Monday, January 7, 2008 6:46 AM

Ha Haaaa 360 fanboys!! There's one best-seller for the PS3 that you won't get your grimy hands on!!! If you really wanna play it, buy the best console; a PS3!!!

Posted by B00MR1D3 - Tuesday, January 8, 2008 1:19 PM

maybe if u get a job and stop playing WOW maybe u wil get ur source right about the DS3 its probably going to be 29.99 for what i read in PSM. N this turning like HALO 3 coming and all u xbox 360 said the ps3 is done for. ( checking his ps3 ) nope its living and letting the darkness of HIGH D in my tv.
funny thing is halo 3 was so hype ppl didnt actually played the game so they just gave it 9's and 8 's. back to unreal tournament 3 oh yea

Posted by rondogg96 - Wednesday, January 9, 2008 8:03 PM

I'm pretty new to Metal Gear Solid. I played through number two, and well it was a nice departure from all the xbox gaming. Though I had never actually owned a ps2, that was a game that probably would have made me go out and get a playstation. I eventually did buy one for the devil may cry games, but stop playing it after those finished. Hopefully metal gear solid 4 is not all graphics because it looks very promising, enough to go out and pick up a playstation 3 for. And yes I'm a die hard xbox fan but metal gear is just great and should not be missed.

Posted by TheRedStar - Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:36 PM

well said doggy, but since this is the last installment of MGS that's gona have snake i suggest you get the MGS for Nintendo, PS1, PS2, and this final one for PS3. Cauz the story line links. I've been playing this Series since Nintendo and I can tell you the graphics are just a bonus this game is all story!!

Posted by Colonol_Carter - Saturday, January 12, 2008 8:34 PM

hahahhaahha omg hahaha 29.99 for the dualshock 3 haha when the normal controler is 50 bucks ahahah good price thinking hahah wow some ppl

Posted by OBAMAISBUSHpart3 - Friday, January 25, 2008 10:50 AM

The XROT i mean XBOX 360's sales are in a lot more trouble than i thought because MGS4 will never,ever ever,ever,ever ever,be on the XROT 360 but you don't hear me though,you feel me? PS3 once again is the winner of this next-generational console war without bribing the makers of the MGS4 to make it exclusive to the PS3 but you don't hear me though,you feel me?

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