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Epic Fail: Gaming Failures

Posted by Stephen Johnson - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:34 AM

TheFeed is proud to present Epic Fail, a brand new feature that brings you the greatest failures in the world of videogames, popular culture and technology. We're not talking run-of-the-mill defeat here; Epic Fail is reserved for the top of the bottom: Grand-scale fiascos only.

To kick off Epic Fail, we've compiled the below list of the most egregious failures in the current generation of videogaming. Because we can, we've defined the "Current" generation as beginning five years ago and ending this morning at 8 AM.

10) The Phantom: Originally announced in 2002, this never to-be-released gaming platform had a seemingly solid idea at its core: A set-top launch console that could play PC games, meaning thousands of Phantom games would be available at launch and development would be a snap. The problem was, like its namesake, The Phantom remained invisible. Reportedly, Phantom Entertainment has lost more than $62.7 million since it began work on The Phantom, without a single unit ever being sold. The SEC has implied Phantom's president was running a  "pump and dump" stock scheme in promoting the Phantom.

9) Advent Rising: Okay, it's hard to call a game with ratings like 67% on gamerankings.com a total failure, but the expectations for this 3rd person action title were so high before the game's 2005 release, anything short of magnificent was a failure. The game had everything going for it: Written by Orson Scott Card, and hyped to the moon, Advent Rising was planned as the first in a three part series. It had a comic book. There was a million-dollar contest at the game's launch for the first player to find a hidden symbol in-game. But when it came out for the PC and Xbox, it got mixed reviews and gamers were like "meh." As far as the million bucks: Majesco was forced to cancel the contest when security issues with Xbox Live's global time syncing made the contest unfair.


8) Psychonauts: This isn't a failure on the part of the game's developer or programmers. The fault here lies squarely with you, the gaming community. Psychonauts was hailed by some as the best videogames of all time, but due to marketing problems, bad timings and a lack of imagination on the part of the gaming community, Psychonauts sold only 100,000 copies. After Advent Rising and Psychonauts, Majesco announced its plans to withdraw from the "big budget console game marketplace" and now makes Wii games and titles for the casual market.

7) Sonic The Hedgehog (360):  How could you possibly mess up the first next-gen outing of long-beloved videogame character Sonic the Hedgehog? By putting him in the middle of a glitched up mess of a game that manages to do everything wrong: The story is dumb. The controls barely work. The level design is pedestrian.The camera angles are horrible.  It looks like a dog crap. You don't even get to play as Sonic very often.  Overall, Sonic is more like watching an alcoholic hitting rock bottom than playing an enjoyable videogame.

6) Gizmondo: This GPS-enabled handheld system looked, smelled and tasted like shady since it was announced in 2005. There were hardly any games for it. No one bought it, and the funnest thing that ever happened in the history of the system was Tiger Telemetrics' president Bo Stefan Eriksson crashing a million dollar sports car in Malibu, then being accused of being involved in organized crime.

5) N-Gage: Nokia, the creators and marketers of the N-Gage, will join their comrades who made Gizmondo in whatever level of hell is reserved for makers of over-hyped, under-performing handheld gaming systems. The N-Gage had a solid idea at its core--a cellphone that plays games--but the device's design was so bad, both playing games and talking on the phone were awkward, plus most of the few N-Gage titles that saw release were buggy, lagged-out messes. The device sold only 2 million units in 3 years, against projections of 6 million. Even Nokia themselves admitted the N-Gage was ultimately a failure...and a costly one at that.

4) The PlayStation 3's launch: It's hard to believe how much things have changed for Sony in the last year. Twelve months ago, the electronics giant was the 800 pound-gorilla of the gaming industry, sporting the most successful console ever and a seeming lock on the entire "next-gen" market. Twelve months later, their actual sales aer nowhere near their predictions, they've cut console prices to the bone and Nintendo has soundly thrashed them in next-gen console sales.

The PS3's launch failed epically due to a combination of weak launch titles, a way-too-high-price, a lack of dynamic exlcusive games, bad judgment about the market's desire for a top-of-the-line gaming machine, an inexplicable advertising campaign, and general arrogance on the part of Sony's executives. On the positive side, a recent sales up-tick spawned by lowered prices points a future in which a bruised Sony is still a contender.

3) E.T. The Extra Terrestrial. Yeah, the ultimate failure of E.T. for the Atari 2600 happened in 1982, but you can't compile a list of videogame failures without including this one. The failure of this game nearly killed the entire industry; it's so epic, the failure traveled through time to the present.

2) Red Ring Of Death: The finicky, loud and ugly 360 has never been lauded for its great design, but the system's problems are more than aesthetic. With a failure rate reportedly hovered around 30%, it's a wonder Bill Gates' upstart machine was even able to stay in business, and, we imagine, without Micrososft's deep pockets it wouldn't' have. After all, no matter how good Halo 3 is, you can't play it on a bricked machine, and gamers who are left with broken consoles are unlikely to become lifelong, loyal customers. 

1) Every North American MMO Since World of Warcraft:  It was only a few years ago when the entire game industry seemed geared toward everything massively multiplayer. A quick look at 2004 and 2005's E3 rundown reveals dozens of MMOs either in development or planned. WoW killed or crippled all of them. The reasons are many, but a huge contributing factor is simply how good World of Warcraft is as a game. WoW perfectly balances fun and challenge, and keeps its players involved no matter where on the hardcore-to-casual spectrum they happen to fall. Its painless beginning quests and easy early-level progression are fun for more casual gamers, while end-game, 40-man raids and endless grinds appeal to the hardcore community. In contrast to WoW, consider The Sims Online and Star Wars: Galaxies, two games that veered wildly in opposite directions but failed the same way: Epically. 

The Sims Online launched in December 2002, and we bet you don't even remember it exists. At the time, a Sims MMO seemed like a no-brainer. EA sunk $25 million in the game in the hopes that the huge built-in fan base of The Sims players would love an online version of their favorite game. Can't lose, right? Sadly, while TSO was graphically impressive, EA forgot to actually include a game in the the game, seemingly because it believed casual gamers would run screaming from even the slightest challenge. The decision to keep it stupid-easy made The Sims Online little more than an animated chat-room that cost 10 bucks a month to play.  Pre-launch P.R. trumpeted the game's servers as being able to handle more than a million people, but they never got close. Today TSO is a virtual ghost town.

Star Wars Galaxies had the opposite problem as The Sims Online. Its complexity demanded so much of gamers, and its worthwhile accomplishments were so time-consuming, only the most super-dedicated players and lovers of the grind could hope to achieve the highest honor in the game: Jedi status.

Eventually, Sony Online got tired of hemorrhaging money and swung SW:G in the other direction, making "Jedi" a level zero character class, meaning everyone who earned Jedi status legitimately had all but wasted those many, many hours of grinding. The existence of thousands of Jedis (because what other class would you pick?) messes with the Star Wars Universe's mythology almost as much as the last three movies. Sony also gutted the game's complex crafting and abilities systems and generally nerfed the hell out of the experience, dumbing everything way down. All of this, of course, alienated the dwindling fanbase of the game even further. The backlash was strong, and current estimates of the game'smarket share hover around 1.4% compared to WoW's 52%.

Honorable Mention: G4tv: We made the list for interrupting the exclusive first television airing of the Halo 3 trailer at the 2007 E3 convention in order to show a commercial.  Mistakes were made. Heads were rolled. Etc.


Comment(s)


Posted by dudethisrocks - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:51 AM
Microsoft cannot get vista right and cannot get the red ring of death to go away. Like Weird Al's says, "Sucks to be you. HEY!"

Posted by raziel_hell - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:01 AM
even with the rrod the 360 rocks and they repair it for free.

Posted by altizar - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:02 AM
Let's face it Vista was designed to run on a PS3. About the only thing that has the processing power anywhere close to what you need to run it smoothly.

Posted by raziel_hell - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:07 AM
is vista that bad i was going to get a new laptop soon.

Posted by raziel_hell - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:08 AM
all i do is web surf and play music on my pc nothing else really.

Posted by bleahy - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:12 AM
Vista is not as bad as people like to say it is.
XP runs faster, no doubt, but a new computer will run Vista just fine.

Sadly, it's the only way to get DX10.

Posted by anarchyburger - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:25 AM
how about the death of techtv and the screen savers...
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Posted by samhain_knight - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:33 AM
Most of Vista's problems are lack of end user's ability to operate a computer. 99% of users are handicapped. All I can say is, well at least it's not a crappy Mac. :) I have Vista 64bit Ulitmate and it runs superbly. It's fast as hell too. Most of these dweebs that say it's "slower than XP" are trying to run it on their junker celeron pc from 5 years ago. Not like Microsoft clearly stated the hardware reqs for Vista. It was designed for the latest dual core cpus and latest gen gpu's. People are dumb. You probably saw the Mac vs PC guy commercial and went and dropped $3000's on some overpriced Mac POS.

Posted by NotAnotherOne - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:39 AM
Things to add:
- Sony not putting rumble into the SIXAXIS and denying its importance
- too many SKU's for console makers
- Shadowrun

Posted by xAbbiex - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:41 AM
Star Wars Galaxies was the best MMO during it's pre-cu days. It wasn't THAT complex. It's actually the only MMO that made me actually want to play it and GRIND my professions. An awesome community too. Just talking to people in the cantinas was fun.

Posted by SkyAnimal - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:43 AM
Why does G4 get so much flack for cutting to comercial during a trailer for a game that people could watch online?

I'd rather G4 made some money, paid it's staff well, and produced great content for our viewing pleasure. Who cares about the complainers.

Posted by zacf520 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:45 AM
Thanks samhain. Someone finally likes Vista.

Posted by DrRotwang - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:47 AM
Shadowrun?! Why, Shadowrun's played with dice! A TON of 'em! And you get your rule book and your Rigger Blackbook and your Sprawl Sites and...

...

...Actually, I played ICE's "Cyberspace" instead.

Wait -- what are we talking abo--

-- dang kids, get off my lawn!
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Posted by Ulrichgaming - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:53 AM
Vista is nice for those who have new computers, or just like there hand held. XP trys to hold my hand enough... I'm not really into that kind of relationship with my PC.

Posted by mechabeast - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:55 AM
so, what department at G4 do you intern for?

Posted by raziel_hell - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:03 PM
NotAnotherOne shadowrun was a great game just people wanted it to be a old school shadowrun but the game was very good.

Posted by yakikura6 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:24 PM
Damn G4 really hates sonic. They weren't at all kid to the PS3 either. I'm about to give up fighting for the PS3, it is truly too far down the hole. This wont be good for their future and may actually cut the console war down to just two.

Posted by ichaboddanger - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:27 PM
if it was a good system you wouldn't have to fight for it. it would speak for itself. but it doesn't.

i played shadowrun not knowing anything about it and loved the game.

Posted by phoenixfire360 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:37 PM
the 360 is not ugly its prettier then the ps3 yea the rrod sucks but hey so does ur mom

Posted by DrRotwang - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:46 PM
They still teach English in schools, right?

Posted by CreamPieBaby - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:01 PM
Man I remember the sims online. My sister got it way back then and I played it once. It was exactly what was stated above, an animated chat room that charged you monthly. I think the combined play time between me and her was about 30 minutes.

Posted by Kensuke - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:02 PM
^^
lol
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Vista is fine. But then again I bought a new cpu. About 500 dollars. Not the expensive, and it runs pretty fast.

Posted by Y0uthinasia - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:03 PM
I love my 360, and i only get the red ring when the power goes out
then I just reset it and it's gone

I don't understand the problem

Posted by santjnthn - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:11 PM
Ahhh yea, you goof balls trying hard to diss Vista are very much mistaken. Vista is a great OS Much better than XP. I have years of experience then most of you noobs who know nothing about OS systems. I run 64bit AMD X2 with about 2 gig ram and a not so good video card and I had this machine for years since the X2 came out when I had XP installed, then I upgraded to Vista ultimate and I had no problems what’s so ever. You all need to stop trying you upgrade your Pentium 3 or Celeron machines and clean it up. It's not the operating system that is the problem, it all you inexperience users who know nothing about computers. Stop trying to upgrade you old PC. You really want to see how much better it is. Then buy a new PC with Vista already installed. That way, it’s a new PC that works well with the OS.

Posted by JDarkley - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:16 PM
Anybody remember "Diakatana"? Why is that not on the list, and "Advent Rising? is?

Posted by Ulrichgaming - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:17 PM
@yakikura6

The 360 was higher on the list... which is fair. so far the PS3 hasn't lived up to it's hype, but what console in it's first year ever did. Maybe the NES... lol

As for the 360... I'd be damn pissed off if my michine went down.. even if I can get it fixed for free.

Posted by trkydk - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:21 PM
@ hammer NotAnotherOne:
the sixais is coming out. they are making it directional runbling, so to speak.

Posted by milhouse91 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:22 PM
Dudes, Vista blows. It is slow, slow, slow. My new laptop has 2 gigs of RAM and Vista's processes eat up 90% of it. My laptop from 2 and 1/2 years ago is much faster.

Posted by NotAnotherOne - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:26 PM
@ raziel
I know man... it wasn't that bad. But think of psychonaughts. Good game that just didn't make it. It doesn't help that the development studio that made the game has been dismatled either. People on gametrailors make a good point... Lair should be on here too.

@trkydk
yeah... fixing a mistake

Posted by CounterSniper17 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:30 PM
I 100% agree with Sonic The Hedgehog. Hell, I credit it for being the worst game of all time. I expected it to return Sonic to the glory days of Sonic Adventure 1. (The best 3D Sonic In my opinion). But no. Even the achievements were near impossible do to the fact that the damn game didn't work.

I should die because I timed the jump wrong, not because I FELL THROUGH THE !@#$%?& FLOOR!!!

The ONE and only positive thing about that game was the music. Good rock/orchestra crossovers. Except for the pathetic hip-hop though...

Posted by frozenjakalope - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:31 PM
@milhouse91:
Funny, my laptop has Vista and 2GB of RAM, and Vista eats up a whopping 20%. And this is Ultimate. Also, my processor is hardly the greatest thing ever made, but this laptop is still MUCH faster than my XP wielding desktop. 90% of you people who complain about Vista are bandwagonning and have never even tried it. You couldn't PAY me to use XP again.

Posted by frozenjakalope - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:33 PM
@milhouse91:
Funny, my laptop has Vista and 2GB of RAM, and Vista eats up a whopping 20%. And this is Ultimate. Also, my processor is hardly the greatest thing ever made, but this laptop is still MUCH faster than my XP wielding desktop. 90% of you people who complain about Vista are bandwagonning and have never even tried it. You couldn't PAY me to use XP again.

Posted by Schurm82 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:00 PM
Did anyone ever notice that Vista was actually invented about 5 years ago and went by a totally different name on a different computer? I think it was called 0S X or something spiffy.

Posted by autobotjazz_314 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:03 PM
FORGET ABOUT VISTA FOR A MINUTE AND THINK ABOUT POSSIBLY THE BIGGEST VIDEOGAME FAILURE EVER!!!!


THE FREAKIN HANNA MONTANNA GAME!!!!!!!!!
WTF IS UP WITH THAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
IT, ALONG WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL GAME, RUINED ALL THAT I LOVED, WITH GAMES LIKE THAT I AM ASHAMED TO BE CALLED A GAMER!!!!!!!!!
A SAD TIME INDEED FOR THE VIDEO GAME COMMUNITY,, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE HALO TRILOGY CAN BALANCE OUT THE HORRIBLE PLAGUE THAT THESE GAMES HAVE BROUGHT UPON US.....

sorry to all of the 10 year old girls that this might upset but its true so deal with

lol my 2 cents

Posted by DarkMods - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:06 PM
i dont see why people say sonic the hedehog was that bad. i enjoyed it most of the time except that everyone has the same levels and when you ran super fast when being sonic.
@CounterSniper17
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle is the best sonic game of all time.

Posted by DeviantQuail - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:09 PM
Tech tv was an epic fail because most people werent smart enough to appreciate it. Including the people who decided it would be better to have a channel overflowing with crappy gaming shows instead of real useful tech info...

Posted by DeviantQuail - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:10 PM
I miss leo!!!!

Posted by Chuckupman - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:11 PM
you are right G4 I thought advent rising was going to be awesome and it sucked.

I also agree with almost all the other things on this list.

Posted by Chuckupman - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:16 PM
what about lair?

Posted by Schurm82 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:27 PM
Did we forget to mention Nintendo's Virtual Boy? Come on did anyone even attempt to think about buying one of these? This should be added to this list!

Posted by Schurm82 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:31 PM
Did we forget to mention Nintendo's Virtual Boy? Come on did anyone even attempt to think about buying one of these? This should be added to this list!

Posted by CounterSniper17 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:45 PM
@DarkMods

Yeah, Sonic Adventure 2 was good as well, but I liked the fact that in SA 1, you played through each character's story 100%. The game didn't forcibly switch you to play as Sonic, then play as Tails in a plane robot later on. And each character had a unique story and ending. (Big the cat's levels were a royal pain in the ass though).

It actually felt like an "Adventure" game rather than a traditional "Run as fast as you can to the finish" Sonic game, and I appreciated it for that.

It was also My personal killer-app for the Dreamcast, and I got one just to play Sonic Adventure. Ah memories.....

Posted by birdykilla - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:57 PM
honerable mention goes to G4TV not because they didn't show Halo 3's trailer but because they bought out Techtv and turned it into something totally different. I'm not saying it's bad "I love Attack of the Show and X-Play not to mention Fastlane was so awesome to bad they got rid of that one. Because they were airing it at 3:00PM when everybody works" But I also loved screensavers and the robot battle pit thing. But it's cool keep doin ya thing G4.

Posted by birdykilla - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:08 PM
Assassin's Creed deserves no less than a 4 out of 5, or 8 out of 10. PlanetXbox360 gave the game a 6.7 out of 10. WTF. What will X-Play give it. Please X-Play at least a 4. I absolutely loved the game, but I can see it's faults. I believe every open world sandbox type game either has to have a long, intense, and twisting storyline. (GTA) Or it has to be RPG like with an average storyline. But this game has changed my mind. It's cool nontheless.

Posted by Schurm82 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:09 PM
Did we forget to mention Nintendo's Virtual Boy? Come on did anyone even attempt to think about buying one of these? This should be added to this list!

Posted by Doughnut62 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:21 PM
Not just the playstation3's launch, the playstation3 is a failure in it's self

Posted by FragileFilter27 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:20 PM
@NotAnotherOne

Actually the developers of Psychonauts (Double Fine) hasen't been dismantled at all. Double Fine has another game in development called "Brutal Legend" that stars Jack Black as the VO work for your in game character. If you like Metal then this game is right up your alley.

Posted by linkman61592 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:41 PM
Only 100,000 copies of Psychonauts were sold? WTF? At least i can be happy knowing i was one of the lucky 100,000 that were smart enough to play it, cause it was awesome.

Posted by Goldenarmz - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:56 PM
I laughed at the Honorable Mention i remember that and remember being real ticked. lol. #3 was hilarious.

Posted by vismortis - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:00 PM
ok i have 2 major gripes with vista
1) Visual Studio a prgram i need for school ( im a computer science major) does not work with vista Vista wants the new ersion 2008 which is not out yet!!!! gues wh makes Visual studio Microsoft.

2) you are allowed to instal Vista 1 time and the CD key will expire after that you need a new key eventhough according to the rules you are allowed to reinstall it on the same comuper over and over. I had mine crash and spent 2.5 hours on the phone with MS fighting to get a new key!

Vista is however the best virus i have ever had. if you are getting a new computer do your self a huge favor get a windows xp dvd with at your local bestbuy and instal it first thing!

Posted by excaleranth - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:31 PM
i wuz there when the screen went to commercials, the music fading out of the background... master chief slipped from the glorious screen, and then before i knew it i was watching for reasons to apply for a college loan.

and my 360's disk tray jams everytime i close it and whenever i try to open it with no CD in it. I have to close it when it's vertical and open it when it's horizontal to reduce the risk of jamming, but it doesn't 100% stop it.

Posted by marklaramee1 - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:02 PM
I'm STILL playing Psychonauts...AND Beyond Good and Evil

Posted by Shokblast - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:51 PM
I hate you all.

Posted by man_of_the_ages - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:29 PM
yeah, i agree with anarchyburger, the new show is cool and all and Olivia is great, but i miss sarah :,(

Posted by man_of_the_ages - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:36 PM
yeah, i agree with anarchyburger, the new show is cool and all and Olivia is great, but i miss sarah :,(

Posted by Spiderish - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:00 PM
Dammit checked it and it got deleted, it was apparently a keylogger and some internet slueth posted all this keyloggers information, home address, homephone number, everything. Had to change his phone number, hell he may have to move if enough people got it out, but in closing, ignore the website, the topic got deleted.

Posted by jeditrip - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:01 PM
i loved Psychonauts....the biggest failure to me was techtv being sold to G4. even G4 is not the same...the only time video games are discussed is on X-Play (and that is a techtv show). LONG LIVE ADAM SESSLER!! if he ever leaves G4...they should take the network off the air.

Posted by Xero_Wing - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:34 PM
Comcast EPIC fails for turning g4tv into a clone of Spike tv

you should have left tech tv alone after you bought it

after all you only kept 1 show from that and g4

so you went from havening 2 great channels 20 havening 1 almost lame one


congrats Comcast you spent 5 million dollars on a tv show and wrecked 2 great networks

Posted by spam_word - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:04 PM
xplay over the past 4 years, biggest travesty to writing since the writer's strike, the jokes were lame, the references were over done from a less than prestiegous show, and the reviews couldn't be declared reviews, they were too busy being vague by saying phrases like "this game rocks" or "this game blows" "its tough to enjoy" or the ever present, "this game type is over done"

plus this whole channel is r-tarded half the time anyway, you just push further and further the idea that the only people who watch this is horny, teenaged nerds.

Posted by dr_clocker - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:11 PM
Phillips CD-r not on the list?? Hoe about virta-boy for nes?? power glove??

Posted by SirCitadel - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:22 PM
its not so much that vista isnt a better os, it is, but right now there are so many programs that i use that arent compatible, so im waiting. my bro runs vista, and he said hed never go back to xp. until one day we were lanning and his computer crashed. hes tried everything (real computer geek) and its still not up. dont know about that. all i remember him saying is "blah blah blah vista blah blah."

and what about the GAMECOM?! i loved/hated that little guy.

Posted by jmllmj - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:27 PM
Everyone keeps saying "they forgot this, they forgot that", it is a new feature..they will probably have a few more installments later..so chill B1TCHES!!!

Posted by Syzgu - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:59 PM
Posted by xAbbiex - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:41 AM
Star Wars Galaxies was the best MMO during it's pre-cu days. It wasn't THAT complex. It's actually the only MMO that made me actually want to play it and GRIND my professions. An awesome community too. Just talking to people in the cantinas was fun.

Agreed, the game didn't fail. People failed the game.

Posted by OBELIX - Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:10 AM
I love the Power Glove. It's so bad. (had to reference "The Wizard" at least once)

Posted by jahzkie20 - Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:39 AM
They also failed to mention Duke Nukem Forever. Which was never released.

Posted by samhain_knight - Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:49 AM
Most of Vista's problems are lack of end user's ability to operate a computer. 99% of users are handicapped. All I can say is, well at least it's not a crappy Mac. :) I have Vista 64bit Ulitmate and it runs superbly. It's fast as hell too. Most of these dweebs that say it's "slower than XP" are trying to run it on their junker celeron pc from 5 years ago. Not like Microsoft clearly stated the hardware reqs for Vista. It was designed for the latest dual core cpus and latest gen gpu's. People are dumb. You probably saw the Mac vs PC guy commercial and went and dropped $3000's on some overpriced Mac POS.

Posted by samhain_knight - Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:55 AM
@vismortis

LRN2ENGRISH

Posted by cox_exploder - Wednesday, November 28, 2007 7:10 AM
you HAVE to put guitar hero 3 that game disappointed me it looked so ugly and the "s made famous by" songs were painful at best

Posted by ManOfTeal - Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:29 AM
I think #2 and #4 should be reversed........whips out the flame thrower......PS3 sucks worse than anything......even a RROD......

Posted by dillybar - Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:07 AM
God Teal is really trying to fire people up today

Posted by Lagger83 - Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:38 PM
I registered to this site just to post this...

How about Fable? I mean come on, that was much worse then Advent Rising in terms of the hype bar set way to high.

I am pretty sure that we all can come up with an example of an overhyped game, but I think we can all agree Fable is one of the biggest fails from Peter and Lionhead.

I am still waiting for Project Ego...

Posted by Lagger83 - Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:01 PM
I registered to this site just to post this...

How about Fable? I mean come on, that was much worse then Advent Rising in terms of the hype bar set way to high.

I am pretty sure that we all can come up with an example of an overhyped game, but I think we can all agree Fable is one of the biggest fails from Peter and Lionhead.

I am still waiting for Project Ego...

Posted by kwip - Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:48 AM
Every North American MMO Since World of Warcraft is a failure? And then you go on to cite two games from before WoW as examples? Impressive analysis. And of course "failure" means not selling as many copies/subscriptions as WoW, because that's the ONLY way to be profitable... Amazing journalism, there. It's stunning coverage like this that makes G4 the home of intelligent video game coverage. Keep up the great work!

Posted by JonneeJ - Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:37 PM
yeah the "every MMO since WOW" is funny because The Sims Online was dead by the time WOW came out and all the cheesy things Galaxies did have also been done in WOW. Breaking of lore, making things easy to get that were a mega hard to obtain, etc, etc.

And they cannot be basing this on the number of subs that WOW has because.... WoW has been released in 17 more countries than any other MMO out there. It's supposed to have that ammount of people playing when you spread the game all over the world, because it didnt then THAT would be a failure.

Posted by JonneeJ - Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:06 PM
yeah the "every MMO since WOW" is funny because The Sims Online was dead by the time WOW came out and all the cheesy things Galaxies did have also been done in WOW. Breaking of lore, making things easy to get that were a mega hard to obtain, etc, etc.

And they cannot be basing this on the number of subs that WOW has because.... WoW has been released in 17 more countries than any other MMO out there. It's supposed to have that ammount of people playing when you spread the game all over the world, because it didnt then THAT would be a failure.

Posted by archabaddon - Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:23 PM
sjohnson must be on WoW's payroll or something, or just an a-hat.
Sims Online? Made and failed well before WoW.
SWG? Tripped on its own junk as far as loosing players. WoW had little to do with it.
What about Second Life? An MMO that's doing great, and making lots of revenue and subs.
Lineage? It's hardly failing in terms of subs and revenue.
City of Heroes/Villains? Still doing well. The game's still going steady and continues to add new content and systems.
Tabula Rasa? Early to tell, but it seems to be picking up steam.
It's hard to compete with WoW as they inflate subs by citing all subs ever created (not just active subs), and adding in worldwide subs.
G4 should get the #1 spot for this biased review that almost screams endorsements (even if it isn't true). Two spotty references citing devs with histories of doing bad jobs (SOE and EA), without citing any successful devs (like NCSoft or Linden).
Lots of spin. Is sjohnson from Fox News? :p

Posted by jabbamagnus - Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:39 PM
Tried WoW. It was a grind and was boring. WoW may be a commercial success but to a long time gamer, it's a failure.

Though you have to hand it to Blizzard, they can sure advertise. Good MMO's out there; Everquest 2 and Lord of the Rings Online are just a couple.

Posted by jabbamagnus - Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:50 PM
BTW G4 gave Lord of the Rings Online a 4/5.

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/re views/1527/Lord_of_the_Rings_O nline_Shadows_of_Angmar.html < br />
Oh and 4/5 for Everquest 2 also.

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/re views/83/EverQuest_2.html

Posted by pSyToR - Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:59 PM
Who ever is saying that Star Wars Galaxies was failure never took time to play that game...

SWG was the closest to what you can call an RPG... ROLE PLAYING GAME... Have you ever seen a game where people can pass HOURS in a Cantina just to chat with others? Oh and don't try replying "Cause there was nothing else to do" You're far from the reality!

Solo play was possible because a "solo hunter" could go out and hunt for HOURS to get the meat / hide or whatever was needed to craft crazy armor / weapon.

Oh my god did I say CRAFT? YES I DID. Cause players were actually making stuff for others! And only a good crafter could make the BEST weapon there was.

Oh and you probably never played if you're referring to JEDI as part of SWG, cause Jedi was not the most important part of the game when it was the real Star Wars Galaxies (Pre-CU). I have seen WARS without even 1 Jedi ... and that was the real fun!

Posted by pSyToR - Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:05 PM
And the most important part... the PLAYERS were actually creating the game itself... the Economy was TOTALLY player based. Sounds more like a ROLE PLAYING GAME ... than WoW... where is the economy??? Where is your house that you can decorate for HOURS so it looks like you want??? Only thing you do in that WoW game is grind... to grind more ... to grind a little more to finally… grind more…

Not a RPG in my opinion...

I could give you more example… but it’s too painful to remember that… I’m still trying to find something that looks like that… maybe one day!

Posted by silyolpooh - Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:06 PM
I have Vista and really like it, too. But to Samhain's point, it needs a dual-core and at least a full meg of memory. If you've got 512s, don't even try.

Posted by deviousconkerer - Friday, January 11, 2008 10:37 PM
i have an acer apire desktop computer that is running vista right now, but it can be deathly slow, so i went to best buy and bought 2 gigs of ram for it and it was a liiittttllleee bit faster, but it only has SIS Mirage 3 graphics, pretty basic. Pentium dual core processor is clocked at 1.60 ghz, and my ooooolllld dell laptop is clocked at 1.50 ghz, am i the only one that thinks this is a little bit sad?

Posted by Chewbacca_47 - Monday, January 21, 2008 9:25 AM
The last Epic Fail SUCKED, Sitar Hero was funny!!

Posted by TehMunNstR - Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:36 AM
E[f]ailed

..TO Comment.

Posted by C40load - Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:59 PM
1) Every North American MMO Since World of Warcraft

SWG was pre-WOW and was alot of fun. SOE destroyed the game starting with the CH nerf followed by the Combat Update. Don't know what happened after the CU because I was part of the 98% of players who left the game.

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