Sessler's Soapbox: Thanks for the Truth...

Posted by Jonathan Hunt - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:40 PM

Sessler doesn't pull any punches and the new episode of Sessler's Soapbox is no exception. This week, Sessler addresses the recent comments made by Sony President Jack Tretton in an interview with the Wall Street Journal. Adam poses the question: Is Sony finally telling the truth? Check out the episode and let us know what you think in the comments section below, or sign in to our forums and leave us your thoughts.

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Posted by jbw - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:51 PM

Hmmmm? I can't get it to play.

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Posted by feartheraven - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:56 PM

down w/ g4tv.com

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Posted by jbw - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:57 PM

Still nothing.

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Posted by Danthrax - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:03 PM

works for me. Again, I agree

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Posted by marucci6echo - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:04 PM

I totally disagree. Backwards compatibility is a must have for Sony mainly because there are still plenty of good PlayStation 2 games, and if you pay $400 or $500 dollars for a machine, it should be able to play your old games! I mean come on, when the Xbox 360 came out it HAD TO HAVE backwards compatibility or else it would have been a total flop. I mean, millions of people were still playing Halo 2, and if someone couldn't pop in a Halo 2 disc into a 360 at the time, consumers would have been outraged. ADAM, I am talking to you right now. The REAL reason why Sony held back on the emulation/emotion chips on the PS3 was because the system was too expensive and desperately needed a price drop. My opinion...there still aren't much amazing titles for the PS3. Lair tanked, Heavenly Sword was practically 5 HOURS, Warhawk had a ton of bugs and defects and I just read the review from Gamespot for Ratchet and Clank and they gave it a 7.5.

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Posted by bleahy - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:08 PM

I have a PS3 with backwards compatibility. I've used that feature a total of 0 times.

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Posted by holdingthismoment - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:27 PM

I liked that insert of honest abe, it gave me a little chuckle

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Posted by CappinCurt - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:29 PM

@ marucci6echo

I woldn't put too much credence into Gamespot's review of Ratchet and Clank.If you have read their links to other reviews you would have seen that:
GameTap gave it 10/10
GameSpy 4/5
GameZone 9.3/10
GamerNode 9.5/10
IGN 9.4/10
Game Informer 9.3/10
GamingAge A-
Pro-G 9/10
Gametrailers 9/10
GameAlmighty 9/10
UnderGroundOnline A-

Simply picking the one site that gives it the lowest score and then using that as a basis for its quality is simple intelectaul dishonesty. This takes away from the rest of your points which were pretty valid.

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Posted by Bellamorte - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:38 PM

Adam's right yet again.

I'll give Sony credit. They're starting to turn things around. Hopefully, it'll continue...

http://www.youtube.com/watch ?v=DtSBX9ve1G0

Pitfall with a body count.

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Posted by Jaiitup - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:42 PM

I've had a PS3 since Launch and you know what i play on the PS3? I play PS3 games and watch Blu-ray DVDs, I bought a PS3 for PS3 games, if I wanted to play PS3 games, I'd use my PS2. and I still use my PS2 to play PS2 games.

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Posted by Jaiitup - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:44 PM

Typo on that last post.

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Posted by feartheraven - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:45 PM

still not working

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Posted by EcKo07 - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:54 PM

yea R and C got good reviews. but i heard only for the young ones.... for us 18 year olds we could beat in like in one sitting....

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Posted by BurnsWheniPee - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:03 PM

@marucci6echo

Xbox360 backwards compatibility was only close to 10% at launch. It took them 6 months to get Halo/Halo2 playable on the 360.

I agree with the games on PS3 as being sparce. I skipped out on the PS2 generation, so I am loving the fact that I can play all of those games on my PS3.

I also agree that getting rid of backwards compatibility was for production costs mostly. Give Sony time and they will have download patches to emulate PS2 catalogs. This is how Xbox360 is continuing to fix this problem. Its just not going to be able to play PS2 games out of the box and probably not for months down the road.

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Posted by marucci6echo - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:26 PM

@BurnsWheniPee
Sorry for the ambiguity of my post stating "popping in Halo 2 when 360 came out". All I'm sayin is that at least IT HAD BACKWORDS COMPATIBILITY. Sony is practically scrapping the feature a year after their console launched.
@CappinCurt
Srry, I seriously forgot to check the other sites...my bad, I just checked them right now. I wonder why there is such a disparity between all other reviewers and Gamespot.

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Posted by JDarkley - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:29 PM

Adam is completely right here, but what Tretton's comments still won't help market the console, which is it's main problem. It's unmarketable. That's why it sucks.

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Posted by bullet53 - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:07 PM

the real question is....is ratchet and clank,uncharted and mgs4 gonna save the ps3 and people will start buying....im not so sure about uncharted because i like to see lara croft's butt better...

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Posted by santashelper - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:44 PM

Have the 360, have played star wars battlefront, pgr 1 & 2, fable, and morrowind. Battlefront is sorta blurry in graphics, both pgr's speed up and slow down issues. Only Morrowind and Fable played out like I remembered. I would have bought a chip if availible to play these games, so save your money and try to get the ones with the chip in it.

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Posted by grapeape - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:03 PM

yea i know, you cant count on one website especially gamestop. The game got good reviews on every other sites how. in my opinion, i think a lot of gamestop employees are more into 360 and they are biased to the ps3. in the review it said it did not have a good story, what? do they have any optimism?

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Posted by FragileFilter27 - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:33 PM

If I remember correctly wasn't sony always saying, " we will have BC right out of the box, and then they talked smack about the 360's lack of it?". Now if I'm correct then that makes sony look like a bunch of jerk hypocrits. If i'm wrong then i'm wrong.

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Posted by Necrotix - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:44 PM

Adam is right yet again. Sony kept spewing BS for the last two years. Finally they are realizing they cannot crap golden eggs and expect consumers to suck them up.

IMO BC is not a big deal. Then again I don't have 800 PS2 discs laying around gathering dust. On my 360 I only have 2 last gen games I will not sell, and you know what they are. The third in the series just came out :P

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Posted by adinnieken - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 9:20 PM

As far as R&C go:

http://www.metacritic.com/ga mes/platforms/ps3/ratchetandcl ankfuturetoolsofdestruction

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Posted by HALOscorpian - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 9:41 PM

yeah sony is doing some good things to the company but people may not like, like the xbox360 they only have backwards compadable for the most popular series...i still have GTA san andreas, Halo2, and Star Wars Battlefront2 but i never play them any more...PLEASE MAKE A STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT 3!!!!!

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Posted by ManOfTeal - Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:41 AM

It was all the hype before the launch of the PS3 coupled with Sony's complete arrogance up until this point that really angered me. Sony pretended up until now that their poop doesn't stink......now they have been humbled. Maybe now they will concentrate on getting those killer Apps that will make me want to buy a PS3.

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Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Thursday, October 25, 2007 6:21 AM

EcKo07, i couldn't agree with you more.

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Posted by S14DGENER8 - Thursday, October 25, 2007 6:24 AM

backwards compatibility isn't that important for the PS3 since the Ps2 is pretty cheap right now and a lot of people have a ps2

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Posted by 305guy - Thursday, October 25, 2007 6:36 AM

"I have a PS3 with backwards compatibility. I've used that feature a total of 0 times."

LOL me too. i got a ps3 with backwards capability and i still havnt used that crap.
but i agree with the sess-man it feels good when execs tell the truth. Im still pissed though i paid $600 for mine and it hasnt proved itself worth it yet.

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Posted by MutantEnemyMTL - Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:16 AM

2 points -

Adam is right again but Sony isn't the only one with the BS. They have probably shoveled the most but M$ and Nintendo have done their share.

I'm on the fence about how important backwards compatibility is. I hardly used it on my 360 and I can assume that the PS2 games will be really FUGLY compared to PS3 games. On the other hand with fewer good PS3 games to choose from maybe having access to the great PS2 library would help.

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Posted by IIOnEShOTII - Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:44 AM

hmmm R&C congrats ps3 you got a big title game that got 9's hmm dosent happen often, while pretty much xbox shoots out great games with great scores all the time.
flame me, its give me something to read =] lol
eat that !

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Posted by demonlord2007 - Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:54 AM

They are in a race to beat the 360 and in Wii in sales. They think people have 400 dollars for a console that only plays Ps3 games. Not a good move there Sony.

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Posted by Tmidiman - Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:11 AM

Sony being honest is good. They started earlier when they said that Blu-ray was created to make DVDs cost more and line more pockets with cash. Seriouly I enjoy them being honest.

Now if you could get PS3 owners to admit they got ripped of and paid too much for a DVD player that plays a few games you would have world peace.

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Posted by NortheastMonk - Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:20 AM

Lets see.. its a next generation and the PS2 has been out since 2000. $400 is perfect if Sony is makinig a super computer like the PS3. Why would you add more if you weren't making any money? Hell, PS2 self image is due to its games and right now.. half the great titles already came out. Sesslar agreed God of War II simply rocked. RPGS sorta sucked big time after the PS1. Look how many anime rpgs there are THAT SUCK for the PS2. Now its the PS3s turn. Look how fast GameStop pulled PS1 games off the shelves. But all the g4 cast can do is love MS!

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Posted by bgh01 - Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:40 AM

now this is the Sess i know and respect, well done.

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Posted by StrongestSaiyan - Thursday, October 25, 2007 2:19 PM

The more I think about it the more I agree with Sony's decision on this one. If a person HAS to be able to play older games but doesn't want to keep their PS2 then they need to pony up and buy the 80GB. Otherwise, just keep your PS2 and buy the cheaper model. It'd be pretty unfair to expect Sony to include all the features and lower the price when they already lose money on the system. It'd also be unfair to expect Sony to cater to the people that refuse to enter the next generation.

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Posted by Crapsh00t - Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:37 PM

The video doesn't play on the page at all and in The Pile plays halfway through the credits before advancing to the next video. G4's severs seem slow as hell lately.

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Posted by MrBig200 - Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:04 PM

tho I did by the PS3 to play PS3 games it is good to go back and play some of my PS2 and PS1 games and it is nice that Sony is telling the truth

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Posted by adenread - Friday, October 26, 2007 12:33 AM

great job screwing over the consumers?

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Posted by slimmer - Friday, October 26, 2007 5:33 AM

I like how he throws in an example of lies and spinning the truth by using the Bush admin.
I dont think these companies care if we know anything so why not lie ?
I'm getting sick of the lack of not only proper widescreen support but proper Field Of View support also and lots of companies (2K) say they do or have a good reason for not doing it (more scary) which is a lie.

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Posted by JIGSAW420 - Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:21 AM

I HAVE 360 AND PS3 360 IS A HELL OF ALOT BETTER XBOX LIVE IS AWESOME I THINK 2008 WILL BE A BETTER YEAR FOR THE PS3 MGS KILLZONE UT3 ETC. THEY USED TO TALK THE SAME CRAP ABOUT XBOX 360 THEY USED TO SAY THE GAMES LOOKED SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN THE FIRST XBOX MAGAZINES WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 360 NOT MAKING IT BUT THEN GEARS OF WAR CAME OUT AND THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING. PS3 JUST NEEDS THAT ONE GAME. THAT ONE EXCLUSEVE GAME.

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Posted by deleted_00F7AF04-F47B-4A59-BCC2-2D429C739029 - Monday, October 29, 2007 9:23 AM

yeah I have a backwards comp. PS3 but Ive never used it mainly beacause I WANT TO PLAY NEXT GEN. GAMES, THATS THE WHOLE REASON I BOUGHT THE DAMN THING AND THE FACT ITS CONSIDERABLY BETTER THAN THE 360

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Posted by Suhaila - Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:10 PM

:( I can't play it.

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Posted by Ps3nation - Saturday, November 3, 2007 7:17 AM

Majority of people around the world have a ps2 already so who cares if the PS3 does not play ps2 games.

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