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Brouhaha Over PS3 Price-Cut

Posted by Stephen Johnson - Friday, July 13, 2007 9:47 AM


Reports surfaced on the internet this morning that the PlayStation 3's much heralded $100 price cut was nothing more than an attempt to sell the remaining stock of 60 gig models before selling only the 80 gig model this fall.

Officials at Sony Computer entertainment Europe – including president David Reeves, reportedly – said that the US price would still be $599 because that would be the only model on offer once 60Gig stocks ran out. That means the $100 price cut is more like an attempt to clear out stock, not a real price-cut.

Sony denied the rumor (started, seemingly, by themselves!) this morning. A spokesperson for Sony in the US told Next-Gen, "As announced this week, SCEA's product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August at $599 and a 60GB PS3 available now for $499. We have will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of our consumers for the foreseeable future."

We'll keep ya informed!

UPDATE: In this video, Sony's Kaz Hirai seems to indicate that production is stopping on the 60gig PS3. It's a  convoluted story, no?

Next Generation: PS3 60 Gig Phase-Out ‘False’ Says SCEA




Comment(s)

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:00 AM

the rumor was started by a sony guy in europe, and it has been denied by the sony guy here.

what i think of this is an attempt by sony to make people wanna rush out to buy the 60gb.

so if one sony guy in europe says 60gbs will run out in U.S and another saids that they will never run out and he works here by the way then who is right? the guy that works here, not in Europe.

Posted by deleted_B4573408-F11B-4B27-A64D-7AAE35DDB8CB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:03 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! OH MY GOODNESS!!!!

(ouch my stomach!)

Posted by MrBig200 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:06 AM

for once I agree with Spike would rather believe the guy that works for the US Sony not the one in Europe

Posted by deleted_B4573408-F11B-4B27-A64D-7AAE35DDB8CB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:08 AM

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

EVEN WHEN SONY F*CKUPS! THEIR IDIOT FANBASE STILL KISS THEM ON THE ASS!!!!!


OH!!!! THIS IS JUST A COMEDY OF ERRORS!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Posted by AC1986 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:08 AM

Here is a link of video of Kaz Hirai, the president of Sony Entertainment confirming what SCEE said about them discontinuing the 60gb after they are sold out. It starts at 1:40 where he confirms this.
http://atvs.vg.no/player/?id =10235

Posted by TheRedStar - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:09 AM

Even if this was true the only thing this means is that people who buy a PS3 80GB will have a beeter model....It still doesn't change the fact that technology wise PS3 is still the best and $ for $ is a better buy...So i got to ask what's the big deal?

When 360 increased it's HDD to 120GB thir raised the price when Sony increased their HDD it ultametley didn't cost the consumer a thing.

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:09 AM

I think spike is just racist against europeans.

would you fancy a cup of tea?

Posted by djHaQ - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:10 AM

DamnAge, displaying great intelligence once again.

Looks like a line break didn't format correctly. Should be "br," not "b r."

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:14 AM

yea but still it would be the same price as before so there really wasn't a price cut.....

all Sony did was piss of people who bought their systems earlier for a higher price only for sony say hahahahahhhahahaha you dumb shit we hate you.....

Posted by hetman - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:14 AM

That sux if it is true. Because I want a PS3 and I want it to be cheaper but I dont want to buy one until good games are released.

Posted by G4Shadow_Stalker - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:15 AM

I think it is a bad idea on sony's part to discontinue the 60gb model, BUT, as TheRedStar points out, they upped the system, but not the price, unlike MS which upped the system and the price. On top of offering a bigger hard drive, this 80gb model also comes with motorstorm. (though I think they should offer it with out motorstorm and lower the price)

Posted by deleted_B4573408-F11B-4B27-A64D-7AAE35DDB8CB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:15 AM

Sony Fanboy: GIMME THE PS3 60GB!!!! I KNOW IT'S ONLY $499.99.

Gamestop Sales Rep: Sorry kid, but those have been discontinued.

Sony Fanboy: WWWWWTTTTTTFFFFF?????? THEN WHAT DO YOU HAVE FROM SONY????????

Gamestop Sales Rep: There is only the 80GB for $599.99 and a game.

Sony Fanboy: DAD!!!! GET THAT FOR ME!!!!

Sony Fanboy Father: Do you have anything that is cheaper with a lot of games?

Gamestop Sales Rep: We have the 360 which is cheaper and the Wii which is even more cheap.

Sony Fanboy Father: Well, son? what you think?

Sony Fanboy: FFFFFUUUUUCCCCCCKKKK NINTENDO AND MISCROSSOFT!!!!! SONY FTW!!!!!! I'M NEVER GEDDING A XBOX NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER AAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:15 AM

no thank you painfulpriapasm, i perfer all american beer.lol.

um this rumor is not true.case closed.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:16 AM

PainfulPriapism the guy that said this works in Europe, so he is an asshole who des'nt no shnit about sony's plans in America.

Posted by Schizorogue - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:17 AM

why would i not believe the euro guy? He is removed from the situation here, so he probaly has the right of it. where as the american guy, who is dead in the middle of it, is not that trustworthy. If it is true then sony has once again crapped on us. If it is not true then we have nothing to worry over. Think of it like this, when you have "he said, she said" you dont belive either of them, you look for answers outside of the people involved.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:18 AM

damange u really are a 9 year old are'nt you.

wow calm down lil guy.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:20 AM

an american sony guy knows more abot sony's plan with the ps3 in america than a guy who works for sony in Europe.



still we'll have to wait but anyways wtf is it with this asshole in europe? was he brainwashed by peter moore? wtf man if i was hitman u would be the 2nd one on my list.

Posted by MrBig200 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:20 AM

looks like it is true :/

Posted by deleted_B4573408-F11B-4B27-A64D-7AAE35DDB8CB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:21 AM

Gamestop Salesperson: Hey Jim, you think all these price drops and liquidations on PS3 consoles will confuse the buyers?

Gamestop Manager: Nah, don't worry no one is buying that console. Just concentrate on Wiis and Xbox 360s.

Customer: Do you have any Wiis in stock?

Gamestop Salesperson: No, but we have PS3...

Customer: Nah, no thanks.

Gamestop Manager: Told you so.

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:21 AM

yea you dumbshits at least M$ keeps the core, premium, Elite, then the Halo system!!!!


we have options, not just a 80 gig and a soon to be gone 60 gig system....

Posted by G4Shadow_Stalker - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:22 AM

Damnage is either a preteen or works for MS, I know they hire posters to do stuff like that. that made news around the vista release. Either way, just ignore him. I honestly don't see Sony doing this as I think it would be a bad idea on their part, but don't rule it out completely. They KNOW they need a price drop. Plus you can't rule out the rumor from yesterday about a further price drop. Either way, until we have confirmation from sony here, we can't know for sure.

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:23 AM

To bad america sucks spike and if you like that country you should go suck Bush's ass

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:27 AM

360 you have 1000 of options if you include face plates...... Customizing is better on the 360 ( gamer pics, Themes, Face plates, Diffrent systems)

sony you just have a $600 black system that looks like robot shit like the gamecube controller

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:28 AM

whoa u communist chill we own all. :)

it's amzing how ms fanboys just scramble helplessly and desperately to bash the ps3 cause they know games are coming for the ps3 and the price problem has been anwsered.

Posted by Schizorogue - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:28 AM

i am not saying that the american guy doesnt know what is going on, just saying dont belive him, it sounds like damage control. damage not the little shit that keeps posting here under the name damdumbshitage.

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:29 AM

oh yeah, Sony and Ninendo (but mostly Sony) copied the 360 guide button because they (Sony) are the least creative in doing anything.......... just copy from its competitors

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:34 AM

I am not a communist am Canadian you dumbshit.

If you haven't notice the whole world hates the USA........ BTW if the 20 and 60 models are gone Spike the only thing thats left is the 80 model.

The 80 gig is the same price as the 60 gig before the price drop (just to sell the all the 60 models) so really you are not getting a tue price cut in the end......... Specially if you left with the same price just 20 more gig of memory.

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:36 AM

really I would like to see an actual Price drop from sony...... 20 extra gigs is not worth $100 (m$ looking at you too)

I can buy a 20 gig flash drive for less the $50.00

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:36 AM

um sony made system before the 360, and the 360 copied both sony's controller and ninetndo's and kind of mixed them together.

least creative?

sure the 360 has customizable face plates!!!!!!!!!!!!!11really craetvie and the erd ring of death, wohooooooooooo, that is one hot system.

Posted by The_bobman - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:37 AM

Priapism, not to take sides, but if you are buying a system based on the looks, you are kind of missing the point of a game console. Unless you have some strange obsession with taking photos of you and your xbox on vacation to sharge with your family and friends, your argument is null and void.

Also, most European's know the difference between people from the states and the government. You need to go back to school.

Spike, you have to admit that if it is true, it's rather lame. But if it's false, is 20G really worth $100?

Posted by TheRedStar - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:39 AM

@PainfulPriapism I wouldn't be soo happy to talk about options. If i were you. The Price drop may be clearing out inventory but they are just discontinuing an old system for a new one w/bigger HDD. The 360Core doesn't have a HD and would be a waste if you have XBL. The premium only has a 20GB HDD. The Elite has a 120GB. This creates a class issue! To enjoy the full 360 experience you need the 120GB Elite, or at least the 20GB Premium. So 360 is favoring the rich. PS3 is basicaly the same price for all!! Rich or poor it's basicaly the same system...No matter what the size HDD you bought your PS3 w/you can easily change it to a larger size...Unlike 360

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:39 AM

but it has'nt been confirmed u dumbshit.

and by the way, the communist thing was more of a joke, and by the way, the whole worold hates the U.S cause it's called the most powerful nation.

Posted by The_bobman - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:39 AM

swap European for Canadian, didn't see that post when I started mine

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:40 AM

ok spike, I really can't get you one the 3 flashing red lights other than it is being taken care of by M$. I had that problem and I repaired my system because it was worth it.

It took 1 week for Microsoft to send me a new system and then gave me a month of live and a 360 game.

I and now that I got my money back from M$ you are just bashing on old news with out getting the facts straight.

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:41 AM

Spike china, india together can put up a good fight against the USA. It would honestly don't know if the USA could win.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:41 AM

yes, if it's true i'll sell my ps3 and will buy a 360, and no 20gb is'nt worth 100 dollars, but it includes a game which is 52 bucks(motorstorm)which means you're geting 20gb for 50 dollars.

Posted by G4Shadow_Stalker - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:42 AM

God this is something I never thought I would say... Painful is right... if the 20 and 60 gig models are gone, we are left with the 80 gig with the same price that the 60's used to be at.
But as I stated earlier, I don't think sony would do that. They may, but it would be a bad decision. And if the US guy is being honest, then we still do have the 60 and 80 gig models. and if THAT is true, your argument is null and the price drop is real.
This is still in the rumor stages and we don't know for sure if it is true or not.

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:42 AM

Spike a disc with 4 gigs of data on it is not worth $60 dollars .

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:44 AM

Since when does a average racing game take the place of a $100 20 gig hard drive.

Posted by Dukefnnukem - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:45 AM

I think this thing has gone way too far. People need to chill and realize that both systems are really fraken sweet. I personally think that PS3 has some monster potential, but will never be able to access the full extent of their capibality due to the high price. Do you guys have any idea how much better PS3 would sell if it were being sold as the same price of the wii!! Bottom line, both Ps3 and 360 rock socks pretty hard and both have really good games coming soon, I just don't see why sony doesn't lower the price to at least $300. They make up all their money in accessories and games.

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:45 AM

Thank you G4Shadow stalker, Its be known to happen lol.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:45 AM

painfulp..... no but in the world of consoles yes.

not only that but u can upgrade the ps3 to a larger hardrive.

Posted by StrongestSaiyan - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:45 AM

I find this dubious to say the least. I think that perhaps the execs in outside North America are just mad that they're not getting the focus that America is.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:46 AM

kotaku u assholes stop having fun at E3 and give us some hardware sales u dumbasses. well kotaku is'nt supposed to be the ones responsible for that but atleast gie us some news.

Posted by TheRedStar - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:46 AM

Price drop or no Price drop...It's the games that matter...I have always said if the people knew what the PS3 really was they would pay the $600 for it. Blue-Ray, WiFi, Free online component, Fantastic Computer to run Linux on, and on top of that is't a gameing console that runs 2x faster than the Xbox360....I think they would want to pony up $600 for that

Posted by Schizorogue - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:46 AM

hey guys i just watched the vid that ac1986 posted the link to and he is right kaz from his own mouth said that the 60 gig is at an end. so like i said earlier dont believe the guy who is doing damage control, always look outside in, not inside out. please view the vid. it is only a few minutes and dont let the laanguage of the site scare you off. the vid is in english.

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:47 AM

Yeah Duke if sony did that they can make up money buy selling over priced games and accessories.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:48 AM

i still don't think that's true.

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:50 AM

Yeah but Redstar I would rather do all that stuff on what is meant to be for, a computer. Linux is not that great anyway.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:51 AM

why do u think online websites did'nt just post this and not call it a rumor.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:52 AM

it's official u ms assholes go to kotaku hahahaha ms fanboys pwned again.

Posted by deleted_1CE03641-1D1C-4096-A83C-89EE3E84ADFB - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:52 AM

It is a gaming console, I would not even compare it to a computer because the ps3 is no where near as good as my PC.

Ps3 is not a PC its a gaming console

Posted by Schizorogue - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:52 AM

spike did you watch the vid?

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:54 AM

turns out what david reeves said was not that, and whoever interviewed him should feel like an asshole now.

Posted by G4Shadow_Stalker - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:54 AM

As spike says, it is a rumor and a pretty big one. and as he said at his first post, it could very much be just to move the 60 gig consoles now instead of people waiting for the games. I know yesterday with the release of all the games coming out there were alot of posts saying "I am getting a PS3, but I am gonna wait for when the games actually come out in case there is another price drop coming". so this could be sort of a way to get those people to go get one now before the "limited time offer" is up.

Posted by G4Shadow_Stalker - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:56 AM

Spike, I don't know what you mean by Kotaku, do you have a link or something?

Posted by Schizorogue - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:56 AM

did any of you guys watch the vid?

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:58 AM

you know what guys, i'm happy E3 is over,sure the conferences wer great but after that everything else was bull.

now we can get back to see how the ps3's price cut is helping, how wii sales are growing, and how the 360 is doing in J@pan compared to the wii. :)

Posted by Schizorogue - Friday, July 13, 2007 10:59 AM

spike are you scared of watching the video? you seem to be ignoring it?

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 11:00 AM

no just type kotaku and you'll see, g4 gets much of their info there so i know what will get posted here before it is posted. but here

According to Sony Computer Entertainment Europe prez. David Reeves that cheaper 60GB PLAYSTATION 3 will be done and dusted by the end of July, leaving consumers with the high-end 80 GB model. Sony Computer Entertainment America says not so! A Sony spokesperson says:


Those quotes from David Reeves are not accurate. He said that if they had lowered the price in Europe, that territory would have run out of their current inventory by the end of July... As announced this week, SCEA's product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August at $599 and a 60GB PS3 available now for $499. We have will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of our forseeable future. _kotaku

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 11:02 AM

i watched the video but i don't think i trust it.

Posted by Mr_Gone - Friday, July 13, 2007 11:02 AM

man.. people love to hate and point the finger at Sony.....

i think, more than anything.. sony is just having a hard time fighting off bad press.....

dont see how/why Wii or 360s name was brought up in this discussion...

just reinforces what im sayin.. people love to hate sony

Posted by Schizorogue - Friday, July 13, 2007 11:03 AM

okay, fair enough

Posted by Schizorogue - Friday, July 13, 2007 11:06 AM

all i know is that if the $499 pricetag on a ps3 isnt available at the begining of august then i am going to be highly pissed. august because thats when my cheap ass will really want one.

Posted by RyanPBA - Friday, July 13, 2007 11:19 AM

20gb's extra isn't much of a jump in storage. And with production/storage costs dropping over time wouldn't it be likely that if they cut out the 60gb they might then roll the 80gb model down to the $499 price point. With the price drop I think Sony is really trying to admit they dropped the ball so they want to make it easier to obtain the ps3. I really doubt they would give a big FU to their base and take away a $499 model, that would be industry suicide.

Posted by TKEmysterio - Friday, July 13, 2007 11:20 AM

Man, Sony seems to keep stepping in it's own shit. They really need to fire whatever resemblance of a marketing department they have and start from scratch. What happened from the PS1/PS2 to the PS3?? Did they suddenly not remember how to function?!?

Sony... come back to us!!

Posted by ice9994 - Friday, July 13, 2007 11:21 AM

Clearence Sale!
Everything must go! YEAH!!!!!!!

Posted by Dukefnnukem - Friday, July 13, 2007 11:25 AM

I do agree that PS3 is really wicked fast, but the online is something to be desired. XBL is the best right now just because of mass amount of downloadable content. They have everything from map downloads to hi def movies. I can’t tell you how much I have saved on my netflix bill just by downloading and “ sharing” the copy to my computer.

Posted by darkjedimaster - Friday, July 13, 2007 11:43 AM

@THEREDSTAR are you a retard the 360s HDD is detachable. I got the 120g HDD on ebay for $80. So you can upgrade the 360 mem. unlike the PS3 that you buy. No upgrade on memory for them so either buy the next model up or stock up on memory cards.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 11:46 AM

darkjedimaster are u being sarcastic, u can upgrade the ps3s hardrive.

Posted by hawk_hotlips - Friday, July 13, 2007 11:47 AM

This is rich...does this seem familiar to anyone? Like early this year when they discontinued the other one?

Posted by oscar1 - Friday, July 13, 2007 11:48 AM

ALL YOU 360 DICK SUCCKES STFU


THE RUMOR IS DONE =I NOT TRUE


you are fu*c** and you r 360 RED RING OF DEAD


HAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

LIKE ALWAYS

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 11:52 AM

can't wait to pwn people at warhawk.

has anybody wondered why u can't sneak up on other players cause you'r username can be seen from a mile saway highlited in blue or red.

Posted by Ghostm - Friday, July 13, 2007 12:03 PM

DamnAge is straight up crazy!!! I partition we all ignore this dude. LOL

Posted by TheRedStar - Friday, July 13, 2007 12:08 PM

@PainfulPriapism you need to go to a Computer store. Compare the specs for the PS3 and a typical DESKTOP. Your PC may be preaty good but some people (like me) have computers they bought in 2000 or in the 90s. The PS3 is a better buy than any comp for the same price.

@darkjedimaster I didn't mean to say the 360 HDD is upgradeable I ment it's not EASILY done. In the 360 after you upgrade you may not be able to use all of your XBL functions due to DRM security issues. In the PS3 you just simply transfer the data and there you go. The PS3 swaap is easy.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 12:10 PM

people go to the wttk gta4 radio thing on top of this.

Posted by TheRedStar - Friday, July 13, 2007 12:12 PM

@darkjedimaster Please look at the PS3's specs before you bash it. I've seen the 360 stats. Once you see the differance it will be clear PS3 is just $ for $ a better system.

Posted by Warsteel - Friday, July 13, 2007 12:21 PM

I for one hope that the rumor is untrue- I don't need a $600 80 gig system (or a $489 120 gig system, for that matter). 80 (or 20) gigs will be enough for me, thank you. I believe there will be a price cut of the 80 gig model for the holidays, just in case the supply of 60 gig models suddenly happens to- oh, I don't know- say, not be in stock?! Call me paraniod but to say that such a thing CAN'T happen may be to ignore modern business practices (a created shortage of Wiis? I wonder...)

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 12:29 PM

yeah i'm sure there will be another ps3 price cut in december.

Posted by Mr_Gone - Friday, July 13, 2007 12:32 PM

man... im not sure what people want from sony....

i dont think they will be happy regardless what happens

Posted by TheRedStar - Friday, July 13, 2007 12:38 PM

@Mr_Gone MS programing is strong!!! lol..Bill could come out and admit his system is crap and they would still say it's the best..lol

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 12:38 PM

games? sony answered that at E3.

price? 100 dollar price cut.


i recall some poeple saying that the price was'nt the problem and that the games wrere. there are alot of games coming for the ps3 and now it's 500 bucks.

Mr._Gone i agree, but i think that when one game gets rated a 5 out of 5 on xplay and gets good ratings (maybe heavenly sword or lair) then maybe people will start mentioning that over and over.


what sony has to do now is kepp the games coming , keep there exclsuives, and maybe cut the price a lil bit more in december.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 12:40 PM

I hope sony does cut the price again, then the news on the feed will be like"ms fanboys finally find a new reason to bash the ps3, it's HEAVY!"

Posted by Matrix4Yeshua - Friday, July 13, 2007 12:54 PM

I find it hilarious that Sony thinks people will pay $100 more for only 20 gigs more. What a joke and what a rip-off. I can get 2x the size for less than half the price.

Posted by The_Juno - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:00 PM

@DamnAge

If it wuould make you feel better:

1. Live in Mental House.

That's it.

Posted by deleted_28385B7E-D892-41C0-AB90-09E0C32575CD - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:05 PM

PainfulPriapism i agree but the 360 is american and u said the USA sucks im not a southern redneck (my best friend is from Onterio and my father is English) dont dis the USA its really not your buisnuss

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:10 PM

Oscar,the Sony equivalent of Damnage.

Anyway, people always think that large companies (such as MS) commit shady business, but this affirms that EVERY company is susceptible to it.


So yeah, the only difference between MS and Sony, in terms of business practices, is that MS is flambouyant about it while Sony is surrepitious about it.


Scandalous!!!!!!!!!........t here, I said it.

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:14 PM

F**k xbots and wii A FEW wii fanboys! GTF out of here! YOU DON'T BELONG!

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:17 PM

freeway WHY R U HERE?!?!?!?!?!?

Posted by Ghostm - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:18 PM

I Just saw the video interview of Kaz. That shit is true, once they are done clearring out the inventory of the 60GB. 80GB PS3s will become the standard. News from the horses mouth.
Anyways, it's clever idea to drive up sales of the PS3. Which means a bigger install base by the years end. By then, they'll have the software to make everyone lust for a PS3. Regardless the price.
I still don't think it's a bad thing all in all. $600 for what you're getting is pretty damn good. (We've all seen their 07 and 08 line up. Its pretty damn impressive)
No more games Sony, just stick with 1 SKU and grind this out.

Posted by glo9634 - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:20 PM

this "rumor" was just confirmed to be truth. They are not producing the 60GB model anymore. The entire "price-cut" was nothing more than a PR move to try to cover up the fact that they are stopping production on that unit already. Only 8 months after it was released!!!

This is not good for Sony...not good at all.

Posted by TheRedStar - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:26 PM

@Matrix4Yeshua you aren't paying $100 bucks for 20Gigs more thnicaly. Just think of it as this the PS3 still cost $600 bucks Its just that now they have a better version. Think of it like this they just improved the hardware's line-up. The price is basicaly the same it still is better than Xbox360, and still has a better proabability of lasting you past 5yrs unlike 360 which in somecases dies in 3mnts.

Posted by carrierj1 - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:31 PM

Sony, you's a bitch.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:31 PM

Dmack,

How about a better question?

Why are YOU always in 360 threads talking about how tired the Halo franchise is and acting like the 360 has less processing power than the Wii?

Honestly...


..If I wasn't in a library right now, I'd be laughing my ass off.

Posted by rvawillie - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:32 PM

Thats a seriously shady move, but damn smart. I mean how hard is it going to be for them to switch to producing 80GB instead of 60GB? And now they can spike their sales. Totally a MS move. And seriously, how many of you people are seriously going to be pissed they did this? I'm sure you are all going to boycott Sony. People forgive and forget quick. Shady move, but it's the best marketing they've done for the system. You have to admit everything else has sucked.

PS. Ima a 360 owner and still would buy a PS3.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:37 PM

rvawille,

I agree. And I'm not pissed that they did this. In fact, I was waiting a while for them to do something like this, or at least for it to come to light. I'm just pissed that BOTH Sony and MS do these sort of things and yet Sony fanboys act like their comapny is an angel while MS is a devil.

That, in the poorly-acted words of Keanu Reeves, is "hypocritical bullshit."

Posted by TheRedStar - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:38 PM

@glo9634 how is this not good for Sony...even if they do replace it w/the 80GB version then all their doing is replacing the 60GB version w/ a 80GB version....Did the MS replace the premium w/the Eliete?? Hell no!! They made you pay for that 120GB, HDD which is more than it's worth. If they announced that they were scraping the 60GB version and offering the 80GB version that would make sales go down beacuse people would be waiting for the 80GB the 60GB would be ignored so they lowered the price of the 60GB, and continued w/ the PS3 standard $600. If anything the late commers to the PS3 are getting a better sys than eairly adopters like me. But that doesn't matter much cauz even if the HDD was 120GB is still wouldn't be enoughf for me!!

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:39 PM

*sigh* a new wave of xbots, like i said before, GO TO KOTAKU AND IT CONFIRMS THAT WHAT THAT SONY GUY IN EUROPE SAID WAS MISQUOTED.

HERE IS THIS SO U CAN SHUT UP. IF THAT VIDEO WAS TRUE THEN DON'T U THINK WEBSITES LIKE JOYSTIQ AND KOTAKU WOULD HAVE IT BY NOW.


oh and this may be a strttegy to make people buy the ps3 NOW and make people go rush to get one.

but anyway here, since u xbots know everything.

According to Sony Computer Entertainment Europe prez. David Reeves that cheaper 60GB PLAYSTATION 3 will be done and dusted by the end of July, leaving consumers with the high-end 80 GB model. Sony Computer Entertainment America says not so! A Sony spokesperson says:

Posted by MosesMonster - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:40 PM

Yeah, its a hefty price tag, but their line up is worth it. Everyone who is complaining should just go get the 60gb version and those who want the bigger hard-drive, go for the 80 when it is released. Consumers get too confused when there are two SKU's for one item. So its smart to stick to one SKU.

On the other hand, Xbox does have a smart plan for the long run, when 360 is dying, they will have a pretty powerful system for the bargain bin. All in all, its more of a race against time to see how Sony and Microsoft execute their plans for their consoles and respectively the next-next generation consoles.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:42 PM

Those quotes from David Reeves are not accurate. He said that if they had lowered the price in Europe, that territory would have run out of their current inventory by the end of July... As announced this week, SCEA's product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August at $599 and a 60GB PS3 available now for $499. We have will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of our
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freeway u can't just judge a company like that cause u don't know shnit about what they're doing.

I'm sure that if sony droped the price again the only excuse u guys would have is," xbox360 is selling more" which is right but then the ps3 has only been out for some time.

Posted by PreventorWind - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:48 PM

So it was a fire sale, not a price cut.

+2 to deception.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:48 PM

i think sony has a bigger chance in the long run, but when ms sees their catching up they'll make another sysetm and get another headstart and rush it into the market while sony will make one a few months after and will actually start to profit from the ps3.

Posted by G4Shadow_Stalker - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:51 PM

Well honestly, if it works for sony, I don't care either way, I bought my 60g PS3 when it was $600, but I bought it from best buy who said if there was ever a price drop I could come in and get the credit of the drop as long as it happened during my warrenty time of 4 years. So I am going to, but I'm not sure if I am going to get the 60g and $100 or the 80g with motorstorm... they may say I have to get the 60, but we shall see. Either way, I am excited for the games!

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 1:55 PM

Spike,

Then why do you hold them in such high esteem? I doubt that you know anymore than me about Sony's inner-workings.

Basically, you assume that they are a reputable company. But is that assessment any more informed than mine?

Posted by staychisel (BANNED) - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:04 PM

why didn't sony announce this at e3? "wow sony really owned e3, i love sony"...and people are still kissing their ass.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:05 PM

Also, I doubt that Sony will catch up to MS anytime soon. The fact of the matter is that MS has been outselling Sony for a year and a half now. And Sony only started to make any stead when they announced their price-cut. But the ironic part is that MS is still outselling them with the SAME pricetag for the 360. Imagine what will happen when MS announces a price cut. And I know that a lot of my XBL buddies refuse to buy a 360 until Halo 3 comes out. That being said, MS will sell a lot of 360's come Halo 3. And if MS plays their cards right and announces a price cut around that time, well, you know...

Also, people say that it took a year for the 360 to get any good games. So following that example, people expect Sony to start making a headway once it gets games in about a year. But the difference is that Sony doesn't have the luxury of waiting. At the time, the 360 didn't have competition. The PS3 does. So if Sony is going to act, it better act quick.

Posted by glo9634 - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:05 PM

Let's use a little logic here people.
11/06 - Sony says the $600 PS3 is so far advanced it will still be viable 10 years from now.

8 months later...

they cancel production to attempt to make it better.

Am I the only one that understands how ridiculous this makes them look?

Canceling the production of your "next gen" system 8 months after you released it because you're having to come out with a better one is NOT a good sign for the future of the PS3.

Sony needs to stop worrying about 2017 and come back to 2007, the year in which thier beloved PS3 is dying...quickly.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:23 PM

Right now, Sony shouldn't be worrying about what will happen in ten years. That is preposterous. How can you say something like that when technology evolves on a daily basis? I wouldn't be surprised if the PS3 becomes antiquated in five years. Also, if the PS3 is ten-f#cking-years ahead of its time, then why isn't it showing it? But, wouldn't that also mean that the 360 would become antiquated? Yes, in fact, the PS3 ALREADY antiquated the 360. But the 360 has some more-than-decent software to consolidate the system, and XBL speaks for itself. So the 360 has better next-gen software.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:25 PM

Also, it's a GAMING system for Christ's sake. The industry is about quick entertainment, not waiting to see who has the best console. That's why I lost faith in Sony. They were always about having better technology. They only beat Nintendo because they had a better format for which developers preffered to develop. Thus, developers gave that instant-fun factor to the PS2. But now, Nintendo is using that format, and utilizes it in a way that gives even MORE instant-fun. And the price simply sweetens the deal.

Posted by cascade - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:33 PM

freeway why u do that

Posted by cascade - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:34 PM

wait hold on i think the 360 had games at the begining just not as good as resistance

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:42 PM

Cascade,

I admit that compared to Sony's launch games, the 360's launch sucked. But I would expect that since Sony had a whole YEAR to get their act together.

Posted by cascade - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:44 PM

what do u mean? i looked it up on wikipedia 2 see if i was right and they have some good games

Posted by cascade - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:49 PM

Amped 3
Call of Duty 2
Condemned: Criminal Origins
Madden NFL 06
NBA 2K6
NBA Live 06
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
Perfect Dark Zero
Project Gotham Racing 3
Quake 4
Ridge Racer 6

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:49 PM

cascade,

Um, what are you talking about? I said that Sony's launch was BETTER than the 360's (except for the killings and stuff).

But I also said that that should be expected considering that Insomniac games had a whole year after the 360's launch to develop Resistance. So, yeah, a slight victory but nothing to brag about.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:51 PM

So yeah, how does that make me wrong?

That clearly looks like a better line up than the 360's launch line up.


But again, there are no bragging rights to be had.

Posted by cascade - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:52 PM

im not on any1 side freeway hold on im comparing

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:52 PM

a whole year? not exactly freeway, not even close.

to rule out sony now is foolish freeway.

and u said that the only reason they beat ninetndo was because they had a better format? well dam sony for going ahead of the pact and realizing what dvelopers wanted.

sony has a stong lineup compared to a sysetm that has been out longer.


oh and about the price ms has'nt changed the price because sony kinda helped them when they announced it would cost 600 bucks, if it would've been 400 like the 360 ms would have been forced to reduce the price.


bottom line: sony has adressed the problem with games and price. and what if the xbox360 drops in price, don't u think sony will do something about it?

oh and yes halo will sell sysetms, but not enough to mak it impossible for sony to catch up.

the ps3 is changing it's destiny( it was doomed to be a dreamcast)

and now if SONY PLAYS THEIR CARDS RIGHT THEY MAY BEAT MS.

Posted by cascade - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:56 PM

Call of Duty 3
Madden NFL 07
NBA 2K7
Resistance: Fall of Man
Ridge Racer 7

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 2:57 PM

oh and yes ninetndo is ahead of Sony AND MS,

But i hope they don't continue their sucess through next next gen, i use to love the fact that they were bringing more people to being gamers, but now i'm starting to see a trend that I see is not focusing on hardcore gamers.

the wii is doing good cause it appealed to more people not t mention 250 dollars.

if u ask me, i hope to see ms or sony pounding ninetndo next gen.

Posted by cascade - Friday, July 13, 2007 3:03 PM

Amped 3-ok
Call of Duty 2-knocked out by Call of Duty 3
Condemned: Criminal Origins-after u beat it, it sucks.
Madden NFL 06-knocked out by Madden NFL 07
NBA 2K6-knocked out by NBA 2K7
NBA Live 06-knocked out by NBA 2K7
Need for Speed: Most Wanted-not a very good game
Perfect Dark Zero-ok
Project Gotham Racing 3-ok
Quake 4-ok
Ridge Racer 6-knocked out by Ridge Racer 7

Posted by cascade - Friday, July 13, 2007 3:06 PM

spike calm down the wii cant win the so call console war its 2 weak and its the only console with a real lack of games its still fun though.

Posted by cascade - Friday, July 13, 2007 3:09 PM

so yeah thanks 2 mostly resistance the ps3 had a better launch then ms

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 3:19 PM

Cascade,

I'm not sure where you're going with this.

Spike,

The PS3 DID come out a year after the 360. So yeah, go check the launch dates or something.

What I mean about about the format was that Sony never knew anything about gaming. They just enlisted people who did. Same with MS. Only Nintendo knows anything about gaming. So, I was saying (or implying, rather) that Sony didn't DESERVE the title.

I see your point about price. Touche on that one. I was taking what a MS exec said and then lost track on what I was thinking.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 3:21 PM

And I think you're confusing a hardcore gamer with a gamer with specific tastes. A hardcore gamer is someone who enjoys ALL aspects of gaming. That being said, a hardcore gamer would enjoy the Wii because it provides another gaming facet for him to explore. The kind of gamer you're talking about has specific tastes, and would therefore naturally reject the Wii, simply because it does not suite his pallet. But that gamer is certainly NOT hardcore simply because he rejects some games.

Basically, a hardcore gamer is someone that, if you randomly gave him ANY game in the world, he would enjoy it.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 3:22 PM

except for something called wiifit or cooking mama.

Posted by viperkid - Friday, July 13, 2007 3:23 PM

This is dumb. They were doing so well this week. They better step up or they are gonna lose this war. With the Elite Microsoft didn't have to phase out the Core.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 3:28 PM

Sorry Spike, I meant that you're confusing a hardcore gamer with a MATURE gamer.


A hardcore gamer is up for anything, even Cooking Mama.

A mature gamer, as the name implies, like mature games and would naturally hate Cooking Mama.


So yeah, forget what I said before. A "gamer with specific tastes" doesn't quite put it into perspective.

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:04 PM

That's not neccessarily true freeway.

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:10 PM

LET'S ALL face it Sony won E3 this year. And freeway, damnage and others PS3 has a better line-up of games and I barely see a future for M$ after halo 3.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:11 PM

sony is not gonna do this it's just something they will do to get people to buy the ps3s now not later.

and i'm sure that they won't leave one model of a ps3 by itself.

also in g4's the loop and thefedd poll sony's e3 conference came on top. :)

say what u say ms fanboys, but times are changing.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:12 PM

Well, they don't need to necessarily like the game. But hardcore gamers will at least test it out. Mature gamers, on the other hand, will simply hate no matter what.

Posted by RyanPBA - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:13 PM

You can't say the extra $100 is just for 20gb of space, Motorstorm is how they justify the $599 pricetag. Honestly if it didn't have a game packed in with it 20gb for an extra $100 would never fly. They'll probably phase out the 60gb model before Christmas but they'll probably drop the 80gb model to $499 and take out the bundled game.

Xbox has more games, and a few killer exclusives (Halo, Gears of War) but after this year they'll be all out of Trump cards and 360 fans can start being jealous of Killzone, Metal Gear, Heavenly Sword, and all the others. Sony stumbled out of the gate but they'll make up for it in the not so distant future.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:15 PM

Those quotes from David Reeves are not accurate. He said that if they had lowered the price in Europe, that territory would have run out of their current inventory by the end of July... As announced this week, SCEA's product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August at $599 and a 60GB PS3 available now for $499. We have will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of our ...........


You guys need to shut the heck up.

oh and just give me the website where u found the video.

oh and that guys comment was misquoted.



U MS FANBOYS JUST WANT SOMETHING TO CRITIZIZE THE PS3 FOR SINCE U KNOW THAT SONY GAVE A HECK OF A CONFERENCE AND SHOWED SOME GREAT GAMES.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:18 PM

OH AND THE WEBSITE U FOUND THE VIDEO ON LOOKS LIKE IT'S SHNIT.

I MEAN COULD U REALLY TRUST THAT WEBSITE COMPARED TO A GUY THAT WORKS FOR SONY'S HEADQUARTERS OR A SPOKEPERSON.


LIKE I SAID BEFORE WITH THE RUMORS ON PS3 PRICE DROP, THERE IS NO USE ON ARGIUNG OVER SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:18 PM

Dmack,

That's TOTALLY opinion and bias. You can't just say something like that. IMO, I think ALL of the E3 pressers sucked ass. Not a single company announced anything that I would wet my pants over. But again, that's opinion, so you can't take that for fact.

Spike,

Please don't tell me that you take these poles seriously.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:22 PM

Spike,

All of the E3 pressers sucked.


"Whoa, let's show some demos on games we've already announced. Whoopee!!!!"

"And a green XBOX and a marginally slimmer PSP, wow, we're creative."




And please, you guys always look for something to complain about MS.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:25 PM

Spike,


Lol,

I would ALWAYS trust a questionable video over a spokesperson.


Spokespersons (-people?) were BRED to lie to the public. They carefully choose their words to intentionally mislead the intended market, regardless of the company. I let the product speak for itself.

Posted by Malfar - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:34 PM

"Xbox has more games, and a few killer exclusives (Halo, Gears of War) but after this year they'll be all out of Trump cards" - RyanPBA

I have yet to hear, see, taste, or even smell anything about the Mechwarror franchise. To me that is an ace in the hole.& the only reason I prefer X over anything else.....

But to be honest in the end I will probly be up owning both systems. But so far I have not seen anything that makes me want to shell out half a G for a new sys.

Cheers!! Happy 13 all!! P.S. Thanks G4 for all the great coverage. I'd by you all a stiff one if I could, so I will toast in your honor tonight!!!

Posted by S14DGENER8 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:34 PM

bs I hope they keep making 60 Gig ones

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:34 PM

The 60GB PS3 will be available in North America for $499 until supplies of that unit are depleted. We have ample inventory to meet the immediate needs of consumers in this territory for several months to come. We won't be making any further announcements regarding our PS3 model hardware strategy in North America until the 60GB model is exhausted and market conditions are evaluated.

WHILE SUPPLIS LAST( SVERAL MONTHS)

THAT MEANS BY SEPTEMBER, THEY SAID THAT THEY WILLHAVE MORE INFO WHEN THE 60GB IS DEPLETED SO THAT MEANS THEY'LL PROBABLY DROP THE PRICE OF THE 80GB.

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:36 PM

NO freeway its true that Sony will have more killer apps than any other console. U name all of the 360 exclusives and i'll name all of the PS3 exclusives from now till 2009. ok

Posted by Blue_Eyed_Devil - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:39 PM

Sony could shit in spike47's hand and make him pay for it and like it.
Fact is Sony cant even get its shit together long enough to say something in the press cause they end up denying everything they themselves put out.

There was a story about 1 day before the price cut a press release put out by Sony saying there would be no price cut of the 60gig model.
So the next day Target stores are selling that model at $500.
Then Sony goes on stage at E3 and guess what they announced the huge price cut after everyone already knew it was coming.

Also there was a press release stating they dont pay companies for exclusivity.
Then Sonyboy gets up on stage yacking about how Unreal Tournament is going to be a Sony exclusive.
So yeah i guess Epic just decided out of the kindness of their hearts to help Sony out of this clusterfuc.k called the Ps3 sales.

So u see they cant even get their shit straight long enough to lie to us.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:40 PM

Whoa whoa,

I already KNOW you're going to name Heavenly Sword and things like Lair. The point is, you can do that and pretend that those games will turn out any good while I actually wait and see if those games are worth a rat's ass.

Posted by Spike47 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:40 PM

THIS LOKS LIKE SONY IS TRYING TO MAKE POEPLE GO AND RUSH TO GET A PS3, IT'S ANOTHER SCHEME LIKE WHEN THE SONY PREZ DENYED THE PRICE DROP.

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:41 PM

LOL G4 just announced Call of Duty 4 was the best game that was shown at E3 for the 360. UNEXPECTED I thought they were gonna say halo 3. But instead they say a multi-platform game is the best.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:43 PM

Well, duh Dmack, if Halo 3 was PLAYABLE, then I'm sure it would have been up in the ranks.

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:44 PM

Ok OK freeway so your really saying you know that PS3 has more games and better ones too. :)

Posted by Blue_Eyed_Devil - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:44 PM

Dmack73PS3 youll be waiting till 2009 to play those games just so u know smart guy.

Till then the rest of america will be playing Halo3 on the 360.

Just watch launch day when Halo3 hits store shelves.
People will be waiting around corners to buy it and a 360 if they dont already own 1.
Where will the Ps3 be?
Sitting on store shelves with no reason to buy it even at $500.

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:46 PM

blue eyed devil
Uh, NOT really you half-@ss half of those games will come during the fall of this year. get it right moron.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:54 PM

Dmack,

First of all, don't act like you know what running through my head.

Second, I'm not even holding my breath for Mass Effect or Bioshock. I'm waiting until releases. There are only TWO games that I know with CERTAINTY that will not disappoint.

They are Halo 3 and MGS4.

Third, I'm a conscientious buyer who doesn't just "assume." Saying that Heavenly Sword, Bioshock, etc, is like reading the back of the box and believing what they say.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:56 PM

Killer-app must first PROVE themselves to be killer apps.


So before you come here telling me what system has the better line-up, I recommend doing some growing up.

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Friday, July 13, 2007 4:57 PM

But then again your right blue eyed devil. You guys already have great games like Overlord, Splinter Cell:Double Agent, and viva pinata. Oh, what's that Gears of war, ok I guess you have one good game. And y'know Sony only has puny titles like, oh, LAIR, WARHAWK, STRANGLEHOLD COLLECTORS EDITION, HAZE, HOME, LITTLEBIGPLANET, and a few OTHERS! But your right those are small titles that hardley anyone has heard about. =D

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Friday, July 13, 2007 5:01 PM

So you are really blinded by fanboyism aren't you freeway. You think all of those beautiful games will be crap. I'm glad I'm not like you, damnage, and blue, becuz I think games like Mass Effect, Halo 3, and Too Human will be great games. But you won't admit anything, will you, that's just sad. :(

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 5:02 PM

Dmack,

You would make one fine spokesperson (FYI, that was an insult).



And here is folks, hot off the lips of a Sony exec:

"We're no longer in production for [the 60GB PS3], so once that product is gone from the retailers shelves, then we're back to the $599 SKU only, so it's not like we have a two-price strategy here in the US market, which we found out very early on, that consumers react mostly to having one SKU as opposed to two."

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Friday, July 13, 2007 5:08 PM

I don't hate the 360 I just don't like it's fanbase. I also think the PS3 is a more advanced, adn more reliable piece of hardware than any other video game console of all time! And soon it will have the best software too.

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Friday, July 13, 2007 5:11 PM

@freeway

"You would make one fine spokesperson (FYI, that was an insult)."

Wow you hurt my feelings. Y'know I think I'm gonna just jump off a bridge cuz that REALLY cut deep. lol

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 5:16 PM

Dmack,

Funny, I feel sorry for you.

First of all, I feel sorry that you misread my comments and think I said that those games will be crap when I instead said that there is no guarantee. There's a difference, not that I expect you to understand that.

Second, I feel sorry that you blindly buy a product because of hype. I can only imagine how much money you have squandered in the past as a result of this foible.

Third, I absolutely love how you never even touched so much as a demo of these supposed killer apps and yet are under the belief that they are great games. Delusion at its finest, and yet most pitiable.

And I actually am impressed that you implement diction to skew an idea so that it buttresses your argument. That's something characteristic of a great orator. Unfortunately, you are only great in that respect when your audience is full of nitwits.

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 5:20 PM

"I don't hate the 360 I just don't like it's fanbase. I also think the PS3 is a more advanced, adn more reliable piece of hardware than any other video game console of all time! And soon it will have the best software too."

Yeah, that's bullshit.



If you truly believed that the product was worthwhile, why would you be deterred from buying it because of the other people who own it? You just want to seem unbiased when you make your comments.


"Wow you hurt my feelings. Y'know I think I'm gonna just jump off a bridge cuz that REALLY cut deep. lol"

If I had wanted to hurt your feelings, you would have known. Rather, I was just trying to change them.

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Friday, July 13, 2007 5:37 PM

I think it's sad that you think most of the 360 games will be better than all of these games and yet YOU never played any of them either (except Halo3). And yes, I have played demos of some of these games like Warhawk and I was lucky enough to play Home on one of my friend's PS3. At least I've actually played all 3 consoles unlike you who is even more biased and ignorant than me. I've said it before, If the xbox 360's technology switched with the PS3's then I would have bought the the 360 because I was thinking 10 years down the line. But, oh well. Although, I must admit, IF the xbox360 does come out with a truly outstanding, exclusive game then AND ONLY then will I consider buying a 360.

Posted by herbmaster220 - Friday, July 13, 2007 5:45 PM

hi my name is spike47 im the biggest sony fanboy is history of gaming i enjoy sucking sonys fat dick i dont work for them or even know 1 person in sonys game division but i dont care cuzz i love sony

Posted by XXXXX73PS3 - Friday, July 13, 2007 5:45 PM

Let me just say this. I'm glad to have this debate with you freeway. Seriously:).

I'm also glad your not like damnage or painfulpriapism. Unlike them, I can actually have a good one-on-one conversation. It's been fun.

peace,
until next time
Dmack73 :)

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 5:51 PM

1) Again Dmack, what's with all of this misreading?

This is what I said about the 360 line-up, verbatim:

"I'm NOT even holding my breath for Mass Effect or Bioshock."

Christ dude, STOP READING BETWEEN THE LINES!!!!!!!!!


2) Actually, I've played all three systems as well. So yeah, you can that argument off of your list.

3) 10 years down the line? Again, what makes Sony think that nothing will antiquate its technology. That's very arrogant. Nevertheless, I'm glad that you have the patience, because for me, gaming is something you do in the NOW!!!

Posted by freeway8989 - Friday, July 13, 2007 5:57 PM

"Let me just say this. I'm glad to have this debate with you freeway. Seriously:).

I'm also glad your not like damnage or painfulpriapism. Unlike them, I can actually have a good one-on-one conversation. It's been fun."

Likewise...

And FYI, PLEASE, if anything, let this debate be an indication that the 360 fanbase consists of people who are NOTHING like damnage or painfulpriapism. Honestly, the XBL user-base has a LOT of mature and good-spirited people who sought out only to have a good time when they invested into XBL.


PS: that third point in my last comment was not an insult. I was just distinguishing between our preferences.

Posted by Schizorogue - Friday, July 13, 2007 6:21 PM

okay, doesnt the head of sony america and the head of sony euro both work for and answer to the head of sony international? so belive the boss or his underlings, that is the question. and to the one that did all that launch title comparisom

WHAT? please send me some of the shit that you are smoking. Dont compare sport titles in this, every year they are released supposedly bigger and better. that is just foolish to say that 07 is better than 06 because it is on a new system.

and Spike, you must love u some sony.

Posted by Schizorogue - Friday, July 13, 2007 6:32 PM

ign reports it as true and confirmed.

Posted by herbmaster220 - Friday, July 13, 2007 7:12 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAH wat a golrious day spike47 is wrong and yes there stopin the production of the 60gb and salein them for 500 2 get rid of all the ones that were not sold

Posted by mercisan - Friday, July 13, 2007 9:50 PM

God I came late to this. But here are my 2 cents:
Discontinuing the 60gb version of ps3 makes a hell of a lot of sense.

Think about it. The reason for it is the emotion engine.

The European version of the ps3 does not include an emotion engine, and neither does the 80gb version coming out.

That reduces production cost and lowers the losses that sony is taking with every system that is sold.

Now they give you 20gb of more space for $100 to make you sony fanboys happy because they know that you are blind.

Posted by Spike47 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:46 AM

herbmaster,mercisan and other gay ms fanboys yes it is confirmed, but what the f&^*) do you know if they plan on droping the 80gb now.

and the 60gb they said was going to last for months to come u idiots.

you're a bunch of little kids that know nothing about biusness.


I CAN BET 5,0000 BUCKS THAT SONY HAS SOMETHING UP THEIR SLEEVE.

BUT SINCE YOU'RE ALL IMATURE AND RETARDED THEN WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT WHEN THE 80GB COMES OUT SO U CAN REALIZE HOW WRONG YOU ARE.

Posted by Spike47 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:48 AM

OH AND BLUE EYED DEVIL U CAN GO SUCK PETER MOORE'S DICK

Posted by Spike47 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:54 AM

"The 60GB PS3 will be available in North America for $499 until supplies of that unit are depleted. We have ample inventory to meet the immediate needs of consumers in this territory for several months to come. We won't be making any further announcements regarding our PS3 model hardware strategy in North America until the 60GB model is exhausted and market conditions are evaluated."

I think ms fanboys are desperate for a reson to bash sony since they know sony stole the show at E3 and are making their way up.


the 60gb will probably run out in november, WHY, BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY HAVE AMPLE SUPPLIES OF THEM,


WHO IS TO SAY THEY WON'T DROP THE PRICE OF THE 80GB WHEN THE 60GB RUNS OUT.


this whole console war i guess makees people retarded.

Posted by LM1213 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:36 AM

you know what I just thought of something. not to dis sony..but..if sony was promoting its blue ray disk player and the games would be on blu-ray wich has sooo much storage space what is the need for a huge hd? I have a 360 premium. as far as movies downloads and demos I dont even use the whole thing. I get a demo play it if I like it I buy it if not I erase it. I dont find the need to KEEP videos on their watch them and remove them. not dissing it nd it doesnt bother me about thier pricing but why charge more for a higher hd if you dont even need the thing.

Posted by yoshir3d - Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:39 AM

WOOOOOOOOW these is alot of comments but mind is alway at the bottom for some reason oh yea i want the 80GB for more gameplay hahahahahhah um...................

Posted by herbmaster220 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:58 AM

no mr spike47 i am a fanboy of no system i just wonder y u defend sony so much when u dont work for them and the only reason i have a 360 instead of a ps3 is becuz i enjoy FPS more then platformers

Posted by Spike47 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 11:03 AM

no , I'm just saying that people are too quick too judge sony and bash it.

sony knows people want a 500 dolar console now, what's gonna stop them from droping the 80gb?

I don't know what sony is thinking of right now, and neither do u so there is no reason to go ahead and say"oh they blew it again" if you don't know shnit about what's gonna happen along the road.

Posted by mercisan - Saturday, July 14, 2007 12:10 PM

Spike47
I've never had any beef with you and you insulted me. Why? I actually like you. Would you like to be on my s-h.it list?
First of all I am no fanboy, and especially not a ms fanboy. If I were to be a fanboy,it would be for nintendo. But I could never be because I am too smart for that.
Why did you insult me? You know I spoke only the truth.

They want to get rid of the emotion engine.
Period. You know what the emotion engine is, right?
That will mean a whole lot of backward compatibility issues. Even more than they already have. They'll have to update the library game by game, just like xbox 360 updates original xbox game compatibility.

Posted by mercisan - Saturday, July 14, 2007 12:12 PM

@spike47 (cont)

This is bad news for you my boy.

The wii on the other hand, has no issues whatsoever when it comes to this.
sony denies everything until it is way too obvious, and you blindy defend them. Precisely why I said sony fanboys where blind. Look at how they tried to hide this stuff. Then the other dude comes out and put his foot in his mouth. What a moron (I don't mean you)

I expect an apology from you.

Posted by Spike47 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 1:30 PM

bad news for me?Why?

hey i'm jsut tired of people that seem to bash sony everytime they say something.

And i have nothing against the 360, I'm actually thinking on buying one by the way.




sorry for the insult, with all the bashing and flaming that is going on, it's hard to tell who's saying" sony would shnit in spike47's hand and........" or who is having a resonable arguement.

Posted by Spike47 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 1:33 PM

I'm not defending them, but it's foolish to just say"hahahaha that means sony is gonna leave u forever with a 600 dolar 80gb console and the 60gb will run out by tommorow."

who konws if sony has something up there sleeves?

Posted by freeway8989 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 1:53 PM

Spike,

Mo offense, because I HONESTLY think that this is the most thought-out strategy Sony has employed to date, but it IS a strategy designed to jerk us around.

Here is what they are planning:


1) They drop the price on the 60GB SKU to $500.
2) They then announce an 80GB SKU will not only sells at $600, but incurs less production-cost.
3) They then announce that the 60GB is out-of-production, tricking the public into thinking that the 60GB model is a limited time offer.
4) Since the public is now under the belief that the $100 price-drop is only around for a certain time, it forces them to buy the 60GB SKU now so that they can reap the reward of saving $100.
5) After this plan raises PS3 sales, and all 60GB models are sold out, then they can release a permanent price drop on the 80GB SKU since they actually save money on it.

Posted by freeway8989 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 1:55 PM

It's a well formed strategy and works on those foolish enough to believe it, but it's manipulative and backfires with those who realize that it's jerking people around to buy the PS3. Plus, it can easily result in a loss of faith in Sony from those who understand it.

Plus,I can only imagine how pissed the people who preemptively bought the 60GB SKU would feel once Sony drops the price on the better model.

I gotta say, for a company that designed a system to last long into the future, they sure aren't thinking ahead because this plan can seriously undermine faith in Sony during the next-next generation.

Posted by freeway8989 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 1:57 PM

But then again, if the rumors about Sony ceasing the production of PlayStations in the future is true, then this strategy falls well into line with that. But it would retire them on a bad note.

Posted by Odin84 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 2:34 PM

I'm quite surprised at all of the complaining about a price drop from Sony. The only thing that is going to change is the system is bumped from 60GB to 80GB, and you get a free game included. The now cheaper model will be exactly the same, with a little less space. I doubt Sony has some crazy conspiracy to try to screw over their customers by offering more product for the same price.

Posted by Odin84 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 2:36 PM

I'm quite surprised at all of the complaining about a price drop from Sony. The only thing that is going to change is the system is bumped from 60GB to 80GB, and you get a free game included. The now cheaper model will be exactly the same, with a little less space. I doubt Sony has some crazy conspiracy to try to screw over their customers by offering more product for the same price.

Posted by Spike47 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:00 PM

freeway sorry i skipped everything u said i'm just not a fan of reading that much.

But i think sony just wants people to go ahead and rush out to get a ps3.


we can't judge them yet cause we have no idea what their plans will be when the 60 runs out.

Posted by Spike47 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:05 PM

Sony Computer Entertainment America will introduce a 80GB PlayStation 3 SKU next month, but don't expect that to arrive in Europe. David Reeves, the head of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe and the same guy who leaked news that the 60GB SKU is on the way out, said the extra 20GB wasn't enough incentive for consumers.
"You know, the difference between 60 and 80GB is very small," he said. "We just feel that going up 20GB is not worth it; if you're going to double it, it's worth it, so maybe you'll see something a little bit later, but 60 and 80 -- [there's] really not that much difference."

1UP contacted SCEE for clarification on Reeves' points, but have yet to hear back.

DON'T TAKE THIS AS ME SAYING "HAHAHA SONY HAS SOMETHING UP THEIR SLEEVES"

I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO BE NOT SO QUICK WHEN JUDGING SONY AND STOP BASHING IT AROUND.

Posted by herbmaster220 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:38 PM

u no wat mr spike47 i dont that have nething against u but 2 answer ur question about y ppl are quick 2 bash sony is becuz they started of this conlse war with a "were better then everybody our system is great every other system is shit" type attitude which is y im happy 2 see them fail so far nothin 2 do with being a fanyboy and im happy u might get a 360 cuzz i might get a ps3

Posted by herbmaster220 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:48 PM

dammit sony did it again i just read dat sony is cuttin out the emotion engine in the new 80 gib ps3 2 cut the cost of production which means no emotion engine no backwards compatibility for ps1 and ps2 games dammit sony nvm im not gettin a ps3 nemore

Posted by demonslayer4115 - Saturday, July 14, 2007 11:26 PM

xbox 360 all the way. GO AMERICA!!!!!!!!

Posted by TheKei - Sunday, July 15, 2007 11:43 AM

DamnAge, to himself: I have an idea!
(Hours later in the emergency room)
Doctor: According to this x-ray, this young man has a light bulb lodged deep in his ass.
Nurse: How are we going to get it out?
Doctor: I'm not sure yet nurse. There's also a very large dildo in that massive cavity making it difficult to extract the bulb without breaking it.
DamnAge: Doctor, I don't feel anything. Maybe you could just reach in there and start pulling random stuff out of it like I do.

Posted by Granaw - Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:18 PM

spike47, your the immature kid. half the comments on this page are from you.

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