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Sony Exec Says Future Games Will Be Downgraded For Xbox 360
Posted By: Raymond Padilla - Monday, November 03, 2008 12:22 PM

VideoGamer has an interesting bunch of quotes from Sony Computer Entertainment UK's managing director, Ray Maguire. He suggests that future multi-platform games will lead on PlayStation 3 and be downgraded for other consoles. The article points out that "other consoles" obviously means Microsoft's Xbox 360. Maguire said:

"I think we now have an install base which is big enough for any third party to want to develop for. Now the decision making part of development is which do you lead your development on? Is it easier to lead with the most powerful, both in terms of AI and graphics, i.e. PS3 and then just remove part of the functionality for the processors that aren't quite as strong? I would imagine that's very much part of the thought process now from a studio development point of view."

VideoGamer astutely points out that EA's Mirror's Edge leads on PlayStation 3, but looks pretty damn good on the Xbox 360.

"We're already seeing multi-format titles being lead on PS3, including the great looking Mirror's Edge from DICE, but judged on the released demo the game still looks marginally sharper on Xbox 360."

Now let's to a bit of analysis!

The Mirror's Edge example points out how simple Maguire's comments are. The issue isn't nearly as cut and dry as he makes it out to be. Certainly there will be some games that play out precisely like he suggests -- leading on PS3 and being downgraded for Xbox 360. However, there are so many factors involved with game development that it's not as basic as saying, "I will lead on Super Powerful Console, ergo my version for Not As Super Powerful Console will be downgraded (i.e. inferior)."

In the case of Mirror's Edge, the main culprit of (relative) parity is Epic's Unreal Engine 3. Certainly Mirror's Edge looks great on PlayStation 3, but it's hardly surprising that the Xbox 360 version looks just as impressive since that console has had better results with the engine. There are superior looking Unreal Engine 3 games for Xbox 360 (Gears of War 2) than PlayStation 3. Some might argue that Gears is an unfair example since it was developed by Epic, but that just furthers the point that bleeding-edge applications for that engine have appeared on Xbox 360 first.

Even the example I used is oversimplified. There are too many reasons why Maguire's example would not hold true. Oh well, at least it adds some mild trash talking to the console wars.

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Posted by santjnthn - Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:52 AM
There has not been many games that had been dumb down on the Xbox 360 from the PS3, but there have been multi platform games that look and play better, sharper, faster than on the PS3. I think it does not make a difference since no one has ever seen a game that looks different or better on the PS3 Vs. Xbox 360. A matter of fact, it's been the other way around. The main factor as to why companies like valve hate the PS3 is simply because the development kit is not user friendly and they have not been able to really use the cell like it was ment to be used. Microsoft had made the best development kit for the Xbox 360. Also the Xbox 360 has been able to dish out the same graphics as found on the PS3. Sony needs to go back to the drawing board for the PS4 and really look back at the mistakes they did on the PS3.

Posted by Thundercracker - Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:18 AM
so no answer?

is next year a halo year? lol its like always either halo or gears thats all you kids offer, buy a console that isnt mediocre and will be around in 2 years

Posted by noodle0621 - Wednesday, November 05, 2008 2:32 AM
@ thecoo1est

X360 is sharper because it scratches the disc

Posted by magopus6 - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:06 PM
@uranus62

360:
halo wars-rts: g4 had an article about why rts games dont sell well
halo recon- wont be out for a lil while. no one really knows what it will be like
left 4 dead-will be flipping awesome
dead rising 2- not exactly a system seller dude, alright game tho
GOW2- only real tight shooter coming out

ps3:
killzone 2- will be awesome
LBP-i dont care how gay u all think it is, but prolly the most innovative game in years.
r2-unbelievable, u cant say anything bad about this

i own both systems, and the winner for next 3-6 months is SONY. dont forget re5, ffXIII, fallout 3 and more are all multi-platform now

Posted by MastrChieaf - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:04 PM
RROD your back now I can tell you to burn in HELL.

Posted by BigBlastBoom - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:19 PM
I'll tell you what, people need to stop trash talking all consoles, I love PS3 and all, but i sorta think Microsoft deserves a little win seeing as the PS2 owned all the systems last time.

i just noticed something... it seems the majority of the people are saying how bad the PS3 is, and very few are saying the 360 is nearly as bad as people are saying the PS3 is...

Posted by sosadman - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:12 AM
I wish Xbox360 had QUALITY!!!! My drive fokked up after 1 year and i had to get another 1. 2 months after that the console went out. Im still debating wether or not i should by another and keep feeding these "Pigs". I prolly will cuz i have over $1k in dam games and controllers.

--This comment has nothing whatsoever to do with the article above....
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Posted by sosadman - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:08 AM
I wish Xbox360 had QUALITY!!!! My drive fokked up after 1 year and i had to get another 1. 2 months after that the console went out. Im still debating wether or not i should by another and keep feeding these "Pigs". I prolly will cuz i have over $1k in dam games and controllers.

--This comment has nothing whatsoever to do with the article above....

Posted by Dufrane00 - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:25 AM
@Thundercracker

We get Gears 2 in a couple days so Stfu

Posted by AdamBomb89 - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:23 AM
halo 3 recon

nothing is going to change no matter what anyone says at sony, microsoft or on here, the 360 and ps3 are both good, both have good games, trash, talking doesn't change a thing stop whining, being little babies and complaining about whos system is better is pointless

Posted by bulletwitch114 - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:19 AM
It's funny seeing comments such as these.. If it weren't for 360, we'd all still be paying $600 for a PS3 while you wait for MGS4 to release. I love my PS3, but one thing is for sure, it's not as powerful as sony makes it out to be.

Posted by bigmonstefan - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:18 AM
I miss uncle arthur.

Posted by Thundercracker - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:49 AM
@ ALL 360 fans


SERIOUSLY, NAME ONE GREAT EXCLUSIVE GAME SCHEDULED FOR RELEASE NEXT YEAR

halo wars is not great, neither is alan wake, so dont say those.

before you guys can say anything, you HAVE to answer that question, one of you, any of you..lets go boys
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Posted by B1ack_Blob - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:42 AM
@thataufo,
he wasnt making fun of fanboys, so that saying dosn't apply in this sense.

@taarec10,
loads of ppl still play halo3, just check the amount online. whens the last time you picked up your copy of mgs4? Those are new halo games, the last one came out over a year ago, theres a reason not "as" many ppl play anymore, there is a reason halo3 is one of the best selling games of all time. its good, simple as that, lots of people like it. yah dont need act like a tool to get attention.

BY THE WAY....

PLAYING FALLOUT 3 ON A COUNCIL??? BLASPHEMY!
PC's FTW!

yeah, what now?

oh and RROD has no friends and/or life, like all the ppl who posted above me.

Posted by Ulrichgaming - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:02 AM
we all know it is easier to port from the PS3 to the 360... that is fact. now whether 3rd party devs go to this format... and dumb down the game for the sake of keeping the 360 equal... hard to say... I'm interested to see when FF13 comes out... that will tell us alot.

Posted by ThataUFO - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:13 AM
@ uranus62

Hay dip-sh%& , you are a fanboy. Your just the XBOX version of a PS3 fanboy. Nice glass house btw.

Posted by deleted_A6AF56F4-DA98-49AC-A673-5A686932D6E4 - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:57 AM
@uranus62


left 4 dead is going to be a time exclusive, RTS suck and Halo will be trash b/c it is a RTS, no one pays gaylo anymore, and dead rising is a multiplatform game, as a said after gears what will the 360 have


NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Fat7oNy - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:15 AM
of course ps3 is stronger. Microsoft lost/spent over 30 billion dollars to send new parts for the 360's systems failing.

Posted by jgminto - Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:36 AM
1) That is just sad that an actual Sony rep would need to slander the comp to try and boost sales.

2) Even if the PS3 is more powerful than the 360, the 360 has much better games, online and exclusive dlc(GTA 4, Fallout 3)

3)@Taarec10

Upcoming awesome 360 games

GOW 2
Halo Wars
Halo 3: Recon
Left 4 Dead
(possible)Dead Rising 2

4) Where the hell is RROD? I would ave thought that duckhead fanboy would ave been the first one of you PS3 owners that have had your balls mutated because youve had too many rads(yay fallout 3) down there and too stupid to throw out that crappy thing b4 they fall off.

Posted by ProjektX13 - Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 PM
yeah my PS3 is pretty dusty, just use it as bluray player. the thing sucks, and i hate resistance i feel like i am playing ratchet and clank FPS.

Posted by urlosres - Monday, November 03, 2008 11:01 PM
nerd losers too..the worst kind

Posted by urlosres - Monday, November 03, 2008 11:00 PM
loser's...everybody arguing which system is better, big, losers

Posted by urlosres - Monday, November 03, 2008 10:53 PM
loser's...everybody arguing which system is better, big, losers

Posted by Canid117 - Monday, November 03, 2008 10:41 PM
and of course a Ps3 exec is gonna say this you PS3 fanboy D-Bags! I HATE ALL FANBOYS!

Posted by Canid117 - Monday, November 03, 2008 10:37 PM
GOD F&*#ING DAMN IT! G4 WHY DO YOU HATE US ENOUGH TO START ALL THESE FLAME WARS?

Posted by drangel_jam - Monday, November 03, 2008 10:27 PM
waiting to see, 'cause my PS3 became pretty much a BR-player after 2 weaks of MGS4. I am not kidding. I only have one game for the PS3, compared to, well let me just say A LOT of X360 games (DR Jam).

Posted by DVDAjoobs - Monday, November 03, 2008 9:44 PM
now that being said...i play my xbox 3 times more than my ps3. seems like everytime a big multiplatform game comes out...ps3 is having issues with it. SUch as games slightly looking better on the xbox. or the servers not running right for it. (fallout 3, gta 4, there are otherrs)im not here to bash either side. blu ray movies look fantastic. im jus saying, as a person who owns both systems, i play my xbox more. ps3 is picking up the pace....and i cant wait for some of the great games that will be exclusive. Thing is i wanna play the best games available now....and more of them end up on xbox. and in my opinion...the console war of this generation is more than 1/2 over...thier is newer and better technology available and its only a matter of time before a new console will be announced.

Posted by DVDAjoobs - Monday, November 03, 2008 9:42 PM
i owna 360 and a ps3. i buy multi platforms games for my ps3 when their is not a difference in gameplay, grafix, etc... which usually is not.i have a 1080p tv and a xbox with only component so i wanna get the best picture.Also my 360 is loud...annoying freakin loud( real glad about the new update and being able to install games) i dont care what system im playing my game on as long as im getting the most for my money.

Posted by purewitz - Monday, November 03, 2008 8:28 PM
ROFL @ everyone. Nuff Said.

Posted by o_NIGHT_TRAIN_o - Monday, November 03, 2008 7:29 PM
this guy is right just wait and what he said will come true

Posted by cliptag - Monday, November 03, 2008 6:36 PM
of course this "MIGHT happen. compare spec's on both systems.. nah! just look at killzone 2 it is not hard 2 see what "should" happen. dont let the weaker species hold back the more advanced one cause of fan base....(sigh) but then again thats the world we live.

yea, its sad i fell it too.....

Posted by Aztec23 - Monday, November 03, 2008 6:18 PM
PS3 pwnds 360 worldwide!360 was never a good consele. I will never buy that paper weight.PS3! PS3! PS3!
Now that I got your attention I have not seen a good game on the 360. FYI I seen halo 3 & Gears not good.

Posted by r_pad - Monday, November 03, 2008 6:10 PM
@projectdraco You have some great thought in between your yelling and screaming. :)

While it's great that you mostly enjoy third-party games, there are a lot of people that are drawn to exclusives and a lot of people that can only afford on console.

Posted by bapesta - Monday, November 03, 2008 5:55 PM
@su[er. i resistances review one of the things mentioned was that there is no lag online even wen playing 60 player games. so ya, just wanted to mention

Posted by CALiiGeDDon - Monday, November 03, 2008 5:48 PM
and yet most of the multi-platform games still sell more on the xbox 360 than the ps3

Posted by projectdraco - Monday, November 03, 2008 5:38 PM
ugh... IM SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE GOING XBOX PS3 NOOOOO XBOX!!!!! I have a Ps3. I like it. I also love halo3. It's okay. I liked gears alot, but the ones I keep on coming back to... ARE NEVER MENTIONED!!! Warhawk? anyone remember that one? Or dead space. Incredibly fun. The best games I find are the ones that multiplatform. WHO THE HELL CARES IF THERE IS A MINOR DIFFERENCE IN GRAPHICS.Honestly.Remember fun? the reason people played... In the first PLACE!!! Also the exclusives are EQUAL. get it. memorize it. then... STOP going you suck you suck because of lag, you suck because you have a difference in graphics. Forget graphics. You have fun. You play. Then TRY the other games before saying YOU SUCK. If it truly sucks, tell them. NOT BEFORE TRYING! (by the way if you have to go tell people your better, thats a sign that you need to tell people your better to FEEL better, ya fat bastards...)

Posted by SuperZ28 - Monday, November 03, 2008 5:06 PM
OBAMA 4 XBOX360 '08

Posted by SuperZ28 - Monday, November 03, 2008 5:05 PM
with a sack boy.

Posted by galvan - Monday, November 03, 2008 5:03 PM
forget mirros edge wheres assinss creed 2????

what happends after that girls leaves......do they rescue you or do you bust out your self??????

Posted by SuperZ28 - Monday, November 03, 2008 5:02 PM
To all you XBOX360 haters get over it. I have both systems and they both are great but I love my Micro$ machine. Sure it lags sometimes but not as much of the PS3. Case in point Little BIG Planet, Metal Gear Not so Solid. Who cares if you can have 60 man death matches that you cant even play. I'm not wasting anymore of my money on a lagfestic good time. And to everyone out there online is where you get your money. I pay $60 a year so I can enjoy my online experience and I love my PS3 for cheapest Blue-ray on the market, $399 cant beat that(and ok I kinda like little BIG planet).

Posted by Clamedeus - Monday, November 03, 2008 4:57 PM
@Warheart1188

Kojima said that it wouldn't be able to run on the 360 because it's specifically made for the PS3 Hardware...

Posted by Clamedeus - Monday, November 03, 2008 4:54 PM
To clear this up, MGS4 is NOT, and i mean is NOT going to port to the 360, Kojima has said it over and over but you simple minded idiots seem to not understand that.

And that rumor about it porting was a miss translation, he said MGS5 would possibly be Multiplatform.

And what good exclusives does the 360 have? they only have Halo, Fable2, Gears of War. Thats it. (pretty pathetic if you ask me)

Oh, and the PS3 outsold the 360 Worldwide.
And the multiplatform titles didn't always sell more on the 360 it was mixed, the different titles sold more on 1 console and another title sold more on the other console.

And the PS3 has alot more exclusives coming down the road alot more then what microsoft has coming. Sony ftw~ f#ck Microsoft, bunch of money pinching pr1cks.

Posted by deleted_A6AF56F4-DA98-49AC-A673-5A686932D6E4 - Monday, November 03, 2008 4:49 PM
PS3 has a better future with 3rd part titles
it will be the lead console for cod6 and assassin's creed 2

ps3 is is more powerful than the 360, the x60 is like an upgraded ps2 with excellent online but it pales in comparison with the ps3

Posted by evilriku - Monday, November 03, 2008 4:48 PM
@mybum

uuummm EA has exclusive DLC for mirrors Edge on PS3.
EA says they are making more money on the PS3 (i.e. selling more games on PS3 )
And PS3 and 360 versions of games get the same ratings
You fail at life!

Posted by neoix - Monday, November 03, 2008 4:32 PM
As the Wii has proven, how a game looks doesn't matter. Graphics should at least be clear, but they don't have to be high def. So what if the games don't look as good on the 360, at least their still making 360 versions. Like if MGS4 comes to the 360, I wouldn't care if it doesn't look quite as good, though since its mostly movies I don't know how it could look worse, its the fact that there is a 360 version that matters.

Posted by stevegel - Monday, November 03, 2008 4:26 PM
Also the Fanboys too!

Posted by stevegel - Monday, November 03, 2008 4:25 PM
FU G4! Please ban me.

Posted by Xsi9mm - Monday, November 03, 2008 4:19 PM
RRoD i feel sorry for you dude i really do...I'm sorry you cant comprehend the magnitude of the seperiority of the 360 over ps3 and you keep using that gay catch phrase of yours 3fixme? is this all you ever do? just flame on posts about how you think your system is better?

Posted by Diggerclan - Monday, November 03, 2008 4:19 PM
I don't care much about third party games, i have about 3. As long as there are still good games on the 360 i'm fine.

Posted by blakseed - Monday, November 03, 2008 4:15 PM
Well, I can't really judge 3rd party. I can certainly see the 1st party games on PS3 look better than any 360 game i've played. I tend to get multi-plat for PS3, so I don't know. I guess if 3rd party put as much effort as 1st party, people well be able to tell a diffrence, but if its multi, so why focus on one console.

Posted by imdave - Monday, November 03, 2008 4:14 PM
My copy of MGS4 is the PAL version by the way.

Posted by CALiiGeDDon - Monday, November 03, 2008 4:07 PM
and yet most of the multi-platform games still sell more on the xbox 360 than the ps3

Posted by gurei - Monday, November 03, 2008 4:03 PM
i tend to see RedRingOfDeath's name in many of these posts. eat a d!ck |3i+cH

Posted by imdave - Monday, November 03, 2008 4:01 PM
My copy of MGS4 is the PAL version by the way.

Posted by imdave - Monday, November 03, 2008 3:59 PM
thecoo1est says "@joshua360, well you obviously havent played mgs4, its superior on visual thanks to 1080p, which is something the 360 is not capable of because all the games are compressed, hd,mi is for uncompressed hd signals only"

MGS4 is really good, I've enjoyed playing it but 1080p it is not. On the back of my copy next to "1 player", "4.6GB HDD" etc. it says its "HD 720p" , in fact most of the games I've seen on PS3 say 720p on the back of the box. So at best MGS4 is upscaled to 1080p.

Posted by imdave - Monday, November 03, 2008 3:57 PM
thecoo1est says "@joshua360, well you obviously havent played mgs4, its superior on visual thanks to 1080p, which is something the 360 is not capable of because all the games are compressed, hd,mi is for uncompressed hd signals only"

MGS4 is really good, I've enjoyed playing it but 1080p it is not. On the back of my copy next to "1 player", "4.6GB HDD" etc. it says its "HD 720p" , in fact most of the games I've seen on PS3 say 720p on the back of the box. So at best MGS4 is upscaled to 1080p.

Posted by silenced - Monday, November 03, 2008 3:56 PM
hahaha this guy is a retard every single game thats been on both platforms have been looken into hard and it turns out that 3rd party devs do better on 360. and ps3 fanboys just wine all all the time like when they said mgs4 was goin to go on 360 all the ps3 fanboys were all crying about it and when they say ps3 is amazing they only ever said Oh mgs4 is so awsome and it is but thats about the only game that actully shows ps3. but for the 360 it does a better overall job and has a bigger fan base and all 360 fans dont vine about everything

Posted by Antic1imacticKi11er - Monday, November 03, 2008 3:39 PM
THE WEBS, THE WEBS, THE WEBS ARE OOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNN FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRE!!!!

Posted by deleted_00F7AF04-F47B-4A59-BCC2-2D429C739029 - Monday, November 03, 2008 3:31 PM
@panzerfist, I really hope your not talking about resolution, name the best game on 360 to you in terms of visuals and gameplay

Posted by deleted_00F7AF04-F47B-4A59-BCC2-2D429C739029 - Monday, November 03, 2008 3:28 PM
@panzer fist, how is the 360 sharper?

Posted by deleted_00F7AF04-F47B-4A59-BCC2-2D429C739029 - Monday, November 03, 2008 3:27 PM
@joshua360, wow your so cool

Posted by panzerfist - Monday, November 03, 2008 3:18 PM
Don't bring up xbox live, even though you just went on about how PSN is better and more functional (bull@!#$).

It may be a cheap console to you but mine hasn't disappointed on anything that i've played, and it definitely rivals my PS3 in terms of looks. Go ahead and try me, tell the PS3 is more capable in any way. 360 is sharper, PS3 is faster. Fair trade

Posted by Treemore - Monday, November 03, 2008 3:18 PM
man this story im not sure on, but with the consule war is getting stupid i mean the PS3 is the strongest system out there, n i love it. but once u play lets say MGS4 on yr PS3 u be like damn this game is great yr forget about other games. cuz i wanted 2 buy a 360 2 have all 3 consule but once i played MGS4 i don't want a 360 anymore lol. sony rocks i want mirros edge its good

Posted by saab01 - Monday, November 03, 2008 3:12 PM
mirrors edge looks soo good on the ps3 i have the demo and i wanted to say great gameplay i dont think 360 looks any better then the ps3's graphics

Posted by Joshua360 - Monday, November 03, 2008 3:12 PM
"...Im just waiting on you."
you are gay.

Posted by deleted_00F7AF04-F47B-4A59-BCC2-2D429C739029 - Monday, November 03, 2008 3:08 PM
Hold up your calling me "Bro" and Im the one thats gay, thats f-ing funny dude., Your just mad cause you dont know anything about your own system, let alone a ps3, Im just waiting on you. Ill debate you whenever your ready.

Posted by Joshua360 - Monday, November 03, 2008 3:00 PM
@thecoo1est
"...look underneath cause its so pretty on the outside."

You'r gay Bro.

Posted by deleted_00F7AF04-F47B-4A59-BCC2-2D429C739029 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:58 PM
Mirrors Edge is lame its Made by EA, what do you expect, Im surprised Deadspace turned out so well.

Posted by Joshua360 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:51 PM
Mirror's Edge?
Will be lame.

Posted by deleted_00F7AF04-F47B-4A59-BCC2-2D429C739029 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:49 PM
@joshua360, you talk about a game like its measurable in sales, your retarded, the games are great, its not my fault you dont know what your buying, I personally do research and I will take you on any aspect of hardware debate you would like, just try me, I have extensive knoweledge of both systems, its Microsoft taking advantage of people like you is why they are doing so well and selling consoles, they gave you a cheap machine with just enough to impress you, and you forget to look underneath cause its so pretty on the outside. come on try me, tell me in anyway the 360 is more capable than the ps3, and please dont bring up xbox live because that has nothing to do with it, plus psn is so much better and funtions a whole lot better than live.

Posted by Donthate - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:46 PM
thecoo1est
I could also say Mgs4 is by far the worst looking game and gears of war is the best. I know this because I own both ps3, and 360. (I'm lying)

Posted by Donthate - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:44 PM
Ulrichgaming
when I said the ps3 screwed up, I mean the ruined their gaming market. Let's look Ps2 went from destroying the gamecube and xbox, to the ps3 getting destroyed by the wii, and dominated by the pc. It's behind in everything all the way from hardware units to software. The 360 has still sold more software then both the wii and ps3 combined LOL.

Posted by deleted_00F7AF04-F47B-4A59-BCC2-2D429C739029 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:43 PM
@joshua360, well you obviously havent played mgs4, its superior on visual thanks to 1080p, which is something the 360 is not capable of because all the games are compressed, hd,mi is for uncompressed hd signals only, 360 will never be as impressive as the ps3, trust me I know, I own both consoles. And If you think Gears is a flagship, well good for you , the first one suck to me and so did halo3 , dont get me wrong halo3 was fun to play but didnt last me very long, its a rent at best, and yes their isnt one 360 game i have played that looks better than MGS4, OR Uncharted or Heavenly Sword.

Posted by Donthate - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:41 PM
ALL TALK SONY, NO SHOW, THE ONLY SHOWING YOU'RE DOING IS SHOWING YOUR BEHIND.
Sony you went wrong with the ps3,
i'll just keep playing my 360,
now the time has come you understand,
how you killed your brand. I don't know the words all that well from that ps3 youtube video.

Posted by Ulrichgaming - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:41 PM
@Donthate

exactly how did sony ruin Playstation? the PS3 is by far the best out of the 3 generations.

no proprietary memory... ie memory cards

wireless rechargeable controllers (could have happened on the PS2... but didn't

no add on accessories... ie all the add on junk for the PS2...

excellent online gaming, and shopping... PS2 could have had better online but it didn't

multimedia functions... the PS2 could play DVD's... but that's it... it could have had the same capacities as the PSP for sure but it didn't.

up-gradabe firmware... PS2 could have had this... but didn't.

So as far as hardware goes... the PS3 is far and away better than it's predecessors.

game library and exclusives... the PS2 was in the right place at the right time... I don't think we'll see that happen again for a long time if ever.... and that has more to do with developers and studios than anything else.

Posted by dantekratos300 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:39 PM
Everybody shut up! damn it! I am going to tell the truth, the PS3 is more powerful than the 360 I hope everybody (including fanboys) knows that.

I'm not trying to say that 360 is a bad console but still PS3 is more powerful ( and I'm not a fanboy), I just study both consoles. 360 get better online than PS3, and that's normal because Xbox is the first one using online mode.
and the second problem of the PS3 is his price, let's face it, I know that that a lot of people wanted to buy a PS3, but instead bought a 360 because it was more cheaper, that's why more people have a 360 than a PS3. I play both consoles but the PS3 is the most powerful
Eh, your guys can try to compare the 2 consoles and see if I'm lying. I always play the 360 at my friend house and Gears of war is awesome, Wow

Posted by Joshua360 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:38 PM
@thecoo1est
MGS4, Uncharted, and Heavenly Sword are not as visually impressing as you make them out to be.

The release of Uncharted and Heavenly Sword were not even measurable.

Gears of War, Halo are considered as flagship titles that would truly motivate someone to buy a 360.

PS3 has yet to receive a game that would get people to buy a PS3. And I'm talking about titles like MG4, the Resistance franchise, Kill zone(which I predict will not be great), and God of War. If this weren't the case PS3 sales would have been through the roof by now. And I not talking about the slight surge it had in sales a few month ago so save your comments.

This is the truth about about the PS3s existence so far. The undeniable facts.
This is why Sony executive make such statements.

Posted by Mysterieux - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:37 PM
360 still has better games.
Therefore, win.

Posted by galvan - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:30 PM
including the great looking Mirror's Edge from DICE, but judged on the released demo the game still looks marginally sharper on Xbox 360."


if the ps3 is more power full
why do some games look sharper and run faster frames per seconds on the 360??????????

rrod why is that....lol rofl

lets see what giberish he says...rofl

Posted by DaSaintFan - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:27 PM
Why do the "anti-Sony" guys always make comments like :

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but they don't have enough really good games for just the ps3, don't bother mentioning MGS4
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Why not? it's a very well-crafted game... so why should it not be mentioned. I mean by that rule, when you mention the 360, you're no longer allowed to mention Gears of War (or whatever game you want to take off the list).

Again, let's keep this to the comparison of multiplatform games and those developers (such as 'now' bioshock, COD4, B:PC, Mirror's Edge, etc.)

Posted by Sandrock323 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:25 PM
Why do people keep talking about Killzone? Did you all forget how it got beat down by Halo? If Halo is supposed to be over rated then what dose that tell you about its weaker competitor?

Posted by imdave - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:24 PM
Manifest37 says "Wow Padilla, you're obviously in favor of the 360. This only furthers the fact that G4 is more geared toward the 360. Maybe Sony should buy stock in a rival video game channel. Then maybe they'll be allowed to advertise their games!! (Fable 2 background!! 2 weeks ago)
Ever heard of unbiased reporting?"

Advertising is paid for, if Sony wants to advertise any of their upcoming games on G4TV.com then they will have to Pay. For. It.
Sony really have develop more quality exclusive software, rather than have some random exec claiming how much PS3 will pwn 360.
I'm not too bothered I own them both, and a dusty Wii.

Posted by Tman88 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:23 PM
@RedRingshelved

Yeah pretty much.

Posted by DaSaintFan - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:22 PM
Flaw in the article...

There are superior looking Unreal Engine 3 games for Xbox 360 (Gears of War 2) than PlayStation 3.

When did the ps3 get Gears of War 2??

I'm sure there are probably multiplatform Unreal engine games that do look better on the 360, but it'd help if Raymond picked a multiplatform game to start with?

Posted by r_pad - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:22 PM
@Manifest37 You "obviously" don't know what you're talking about. I don't have a particular affinity for any of the three major consoles. I like them all. I enjoy individual games; to me, favoring one console in an overzealous way is kind of dumb since they all have great things to offer.

Posted by Cheapy - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:16 PM
I have all three systems, but I personally like the 360 better. The online is better and the ps3 is losing most of their exclusives to the 360. I only got the ps3 for certain games like Kingdom Hearts 3, MGS4, and FF13. Now 360 is getting FF13, still getting that on ps3 though because it will probably be another year for it to come to the 360.

Posted by ostlermk - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:11 PM
rainbows, bunnies, and blowjobs

Posted by Hife - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:09 PM
@ Urdead18

Hey, now that's an interesting article. I was fairly certain the 360 did in fact outsell the PS3 on multiplats. Of course, I am going to take that article with a little grain of salt like I do every article.

I think you're wrong on your other point though (and that's coming from a Sony fanboy). It seems like 360 versions unfortunately do consistently get higher ratings. But that will probably change once companies start leading with the PS3.

Posted by grunto - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:09 PM
@Mybum
Im sorry I get fully exclusive games and not just DLC while you dont. Also exclusive titles on the PS3 sell %60 more than multiplatform titles. People buy a PS3 for the exclusivity, not the I can get this crap anywhere.

On topic: I mean really G4. I know you gotta get your fair share of flame bait but come on. This guys not just saying it to say it. Valve themselves were anti-PS3 but are now slowly coming around and realizeg the PS3 actually has a decent install base. And yea, EA did develop Mirrors Edge first and foremost for the PS3. And as a end result turns out better for every1. I have to agree, its far more easier to develop on a more difficult machine, then simply dumb down certain developmental aspects for other versions.

Posted by deleted_A6AF56F4-DA98-49AC-A673-5A686932D6E4 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:08 PM
suck a dick backer man and rrod

Posted by deleted_A6AF56F4-DA98-49AC-A673-5A686932D6E4 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:07 PM
backer it wont work '


its not possible kojima said dumbass

Posted by backerman - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:07 PM
xbox 360 will win the war in 2008!

Posted by Mike2viciouS - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:06 PM
Well, I think that the PS3 is definitely the better console. But right now, it's only better on paper. There is only two games on the ps3 (exclusive) that I want to play. But there is also like 2 that I would want to play that is exclusive to the 360.

The kickers are the online and the achievements. Plain and simple.

Posted by deleted_A6AF56F4-DA98-49AC-A673-5A686932D6E4 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:06 PM
NOkojima that desginer said he would have to tear down the game to fit it it in the t360

Posted by backerman - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:05 PM
bring on msg4, i bet it'll looks better than ps3!

Posted by deleted_A6AF56F4-DA98-49AC-A673-5A686932D6E4 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:05 PM
Warbitch1188
no know NOTHING about games

fps's are way better than 3ps's hands down
resistance has universal acclaim on metacrtic and gamerankings so suck me balls

Posted by Warheart1188 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:04 PM
Taarec10, that's on IGN. IGN isn't the only gaming review site. Who cares? MGS4 is a cool game, not the best but cool. Besides, Konami said it can run just fine on Xbox 360 hardware.

Posted by Warheart1188 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:01 PM
^Fallout 3 looks so much *better* on Xbox 360 than PS3

Posted by Warheart1188 - Monday, November 03, 2008 2:00 PM
They forgot to mention that Fallout 3 looks so much on Xbox 360 than PS3. And no, Taarec10, Resistance 2 will not be better than GoW 2. Resistance has nothing on GoW. It's what we call "the poor man's GoW".

PS3 and Xbox 360 are both great systems and of course, fanboys from each side are going to flame each other. I can say I love my Xbox 360, I've had no problems with it and I'm playing all of my favorite games and I love the experience. I don't like the PS3 but I'm not going to say it sucks as a system. Who cares if the PS3 has better hardware? My Xbox has the games I love to play. Can't we just agree we have two absolutely amazing systems here and we should all get along?

Posted by Manifest37 - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:57 PM
Wow Padilla, you're obviously in favor of the 360.
This only furthers the fact that G4 is more geared toward the 360.

Maybe Sony should buy stock in a rival video game channel. Then maybe they'll be allowed to advertise their games!! (Fable 2 background!! 2 weeks ago)


Ever heard of unbiased reporting?

Posted by deleted_A6AF56F4-DA98-49AC-A673-5A686932D6E4 - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:57 PM
mgs4 got a 10 on ign no exclusive 360 got a 10 ever

Posted by Joshua360 - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:54 PM
"...but judged on the released demo the game still looks marginally SHARPER on Xbox 360."

Enough said.

Posted by Ikrona - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:54 PM
MGS4 doesn't beat everything on the 360 and killzone doesn't seem interesting and GOW3 will be good for a few playthroughs but won't have a high enough replay value, thats what makes 360 games so much better is the replay value, wanting to play the same game again after you beat because of all the variety, and the achievements make it a little more interesting to.

Posted by deleted_A6AF56F4-DA98-49AC-A673-5A686932D6E4 - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:53 PM
and resistance 2 will be better than gow2

Posted by deleted_A6AF56F4-DA98-49AC-A673-5A686932D6E4 - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:51 PM
3rd party developers are just starting to understand the power of the ps3 and it will became the lead console, infinity ward said cod6 will be the lead console b/c they had enough time to explore the ps3's hardware

Posted by Ikrona - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:50 PM
sorry didn't mean to keep reposting the same thing my computer kept refreshing the page, i didn't intend that sorry.

Posted by UnJaked - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:50 PM
All this war is like SNES V.S. Sega. Sega was more powerful yet SNES kicked it's butt all over the place. It just goes to show that the most powerful system does not always win. PS3 like Sega but the 360 is the SNES of this era.

Posted by Ikrona - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:49 PM
First off Fallout 3 looks better and preforms better on the 360, several different people that reviewed the game admit it, secondly most of the good games coming out are either multi-platform or Xbox 360. The ps3 has some mediocre good games, but they don't have enough really good games for just the ps3, don't bother mentioning MGS4, cause that is just another ok game, its not a game that can be played over and over again, and there is talk about putting it to the 360 even though they most likely won't, it is noteworthy to point out that there is talk. Sony can't really compete with the 360 until the get really great games for only their system, but even by the time that happens 360 will still have more and better ones. One game working for Sony is God Of War 3, whenever it comes out, but the 360 has Fable 2, and several other games that are pretty good, much better than some of the games Sony is pushing.

Posted by deleted_A6AF56F4-DA98-49AC-A673-5A686932D6E4 - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:48 PM
Ikrona

Mgs4 is way better than any game the 360 has, and after gears come out what is next for 360


nothing!!!!!!!!!!


2009 Ps3 lineup


GOW3
M.A.G
Killzone 2
more to b announced
such as Rockstars secret exclusive for ps3

Posted by Ikrona - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:47 PM
First off Fallout 3 looks better and preforms better on the 360, several different people that reviewed the game admit it, secondly most of the good games coming out are either multi-platform or Xbox 360. The ps3 has some mediocre good games, but they don't have enough really good games for just the ps3, don't bother mentioning MGS4, cause that is just another ok game, its not a game that can be played over and over again, and there is talk about putting it to the 360 even though they most likely won't, it is noteworthy to point out that there is talk. Sony can't really compete with the 360 until the get really great games for only their system, but even by the time that happens 360 will still have more and better ones. One game working for Sony is God Of War 3, whenever it comes out, but the 360 has Fable 2, and several other games that are pretty good, much better than some of the games Sony is pushing.

Posted by Ikrona - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:45 PM
First off Fallout 3 looks better and preforms better on the 360, several different people that reviewed the game admit it, secondly most of the good games coming out are either multi-platform or Xbox 360. The ps3 has some mediocre good games, but they don't have enough really good games for just the ps3, don't bother mentioning MGS4, cause that is just another ok game, its not a game that can be played over and over again, and there is talk about putting it to the 360 even though they most likely won't, it is noteworthy to point out that there is talk. Sony can't really compete with the 360 until the get really great games for only their system, but even by the time that happens 360 will still have more and better ones. One game working for Sony is God Of War 3, whenever it comes out, but the 360 has Fable 2, and several other games that are pretty good, much better than some of the games Sony is pushing.

Posted by Tmidiman - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:44 PM
@ r_pad

I can see your point. In the end it's the devs who decide what system thay want to use first and not the system manufacturer.

The system manufacturer can do their part by giving the devs tools that make programing easier and speanding less time talking out of their backsides.

Posted by Ikrona - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:42 PM
First off Fallout 3 looks better and preforms better on the 360, several different people that reviewed the game admit it, secondly most of the good games coming out are either multi-platform or Xbox 360. The ps3 has some mediocre good games, but they don't have enough really good games for just the ps3, don't bother mentioning MGS4, cause that is just another ok game, its not a game that can be played over and over again, and there is talk about putting it to the 360 even though they most likely won't, it is noteworthy to point out that there is talk. Sony can't really compete with the 360 until the get really great games for only their system, but even by the time that happens 360 will still have more and better ones. One game working for Sony is God Of War 3, whenever it comes out, but the 360 has Fable 2, and several other games that are pretty good, much better than some of the games Sony is pushing.

Posted by DPsx72 - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:40 PM
PS2 was excellent. Wii is great. PS3 is also really good. 360 sucks. Those are the facts, deal with them folks. It's almost not worth fighting the xbots except for our entertainment because every time they get bad news they gotta cry about it, wishing us PS3 users got bad news once in a while. Enh, what are ya gonna do with the xbots anyway, they're only kids.

Posted by Ikrona - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:39 PM
First off Fallout 3 looks better and preforms better on the 360, several different people that reviewed the game admit it, secondly most of the good games coming out are either multi-platform or Xbox 360. The ps3 has some mediocre good games, but they don't have enough really good games for just the ps3, don't bother mentioning MGS4, cause that is just another ok game, its not a game that can be played over and over again, and there is talk about putting it to the 360 even though they most likely won't, it is noteworthy to point out that there is talk. Sony can't really compete with the 360 until the get really great games for only their system, but even by the time that happens 360 will still have more and better ones. One game working for Sony is God Of War 3, whenever it comes out, but the 360 has Fable 2, and several other games that are pretty good, much better than some of the games Sony is pushing.

Posted by abelpc - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:38 PM
I have a PS3 and a 360..

get that out of the way...

You guys on either side of this flame war losers.

if you would spend more time with your systems than flaming each other your consoles might actually be doing better.

That is All

Posted by wtfisthat - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:38 PM
Oh what the hell, I guess it doesn't matter which console is better. I own a 360, would like PS3 and really don't feel like bashing the PS3 just because I couldn't get that one too. You can only play one console at a time anyway even if you have both

Posted by deleted_00F7AF04-F47B-4A59-BCC2-2D429C739029 - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:27 PM
Well it is true, and games made for PS3 do look alot better that 360 games, Im not talking about ports either, Im talking about games made for PS3 such as MGS4, Uncharted, and Heavenly Sword. There is not one 360 games thats achieved the SUPERIOR Visuals these games have. A god killzone 2 just looks f-ing awesome and Resistance 2. SUPERIOR!

Posted by REDZ3RO - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:27 PM
Fanboys... I hate fanboys.

I love gamers, I love My Xbox 360, and PS2... Gez, wish I had a Wii...

Posted by kikook - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:27 PM
@Myburn

You are the epitome of a dumbass fanboy, Read up before you act as if you know what you are talking about because everyone one of your points aren't valid...

Posted by Smartguy81 - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:26 PM
@Urdead18
Fallout 3 was rated higher on the 360. That is the first one that comes to mind. I'm sure there are others though.

What this sony exec is saying totally goes against everything that has been proven in the market. The original xbox had a good install base and yet its capabilities weren't the standard by which all games were made and then dumbed down to the competition. Really if this guy believed what he said then the scenario would be happening right now.

Sensationalism I say!

Posted by kikook - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:25 PM
Ms does it and Sony does it, Get over it.

Posted by DBJAY - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:22 PM
Shouldn't he be concerned about the Wii blowing away the PS3 worldwide? Are they really only focused on achieving a distant second place this time around?

Posted by TheWolfMI - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:20 PM
Which is better? Hmm... WHO CARES! I got both! mwuaa!! I win no matter what! I got a Wii too just in case, you know, they one day make a game that doesn't kind'a suck.

Posted by Donthate - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:18 PM
Good job sony, All talk no show. Get out of here, you ruined playstation and now you're digging a hole.

Posted by Sandrock323 - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:16 PM
Sony may talk the talk, but until they stop wasting their time trying to make new gimmicky controllers and start helping devs understand how to utilize the cell chip, they are going to continue to see the opposite of what he said.

Posted by r_pad - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:14 PM
@BONERJAM Yes, that's true now, but who knows what the market will be like this time next year. Game publishers have to make decisions based on predictions.

@juice0325 AFAIK, the Wii is the only system this generation that doesn't lose money on each console sold.

Posted by wtfisthat - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:08 PM
another point to make is that Sony is very likely still losing money on each console they sell. I haven't heard otherwise.

Posted by LUCKYXS7LEVEN - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:07 PM
ok really don't care which console is better just bring the games so we can all be freaking happy.

Posted by BONERJAM - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:06 PM
Wow! Someone who works for Sony says that the 360 isnt as good as the PS3. Who could have ever guessed that? The PS3 is a stronger machine but the 360 is in more houses(at least in the U.S.)and thats is what publishers are going to make games for.

Posted by DatNasty1216 - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:05 PM
this is gonna start some stuff with the fanboys here

Posted by r_pad - Monday, November 03, 2008 1:00 PM
@Tmidiman That's an excellent point, but you also have to consider the human element to it as well. While ease of use is certainly a factor, so is talent. One development house might be better at programming for Xbox 360 and another might be better at coding for PlayStation 3.

Posted by RedRingshelved - Monday, November 03, 2008 12:56 PM
This is what I was TELLING EVERYBODY! Even when the Xbox 720 launches in 2010 third party developers will developed games for the Playstation 3 first than PORT THEM OVER TO THE XBOX720! Third party companies WON'T Developed seperate for each console. Like I was saying it will be the Playstation 2 versus the original xbox all over again

Posted by wtfisthat - Monday, November 03, 2008 12:54 PM
personally I believe that the only advantage that the PS3 has over the 360 at this time is the Blu-ray drive. I understand that the PS3 is more powerful on paper but as of yet has not translated into actual results of superior performance in side to side comparisons with the 360. that is not to say that I wouldn't eventually buy a PS3, I'll just hold off until the PS3 hits it's stride. the 360 is a very good machine none the less

Posted by Urdead18 - Monday, November 03, 2008 12:52 PM
@mybum

Lmfao, more multi-platform games sell on Ps3 than 360. No games get higher ratings on 360. You don't get extra DLC most of the time.

http://gamer.blorge.com/2008 /10/26/analysis-ps3-selling-mo re-games-than-xbox-360-with-sm aller-install-base/

Link to show multi-platforms sell more on Ps3.

Posted by Urdead18 - Monday, November 03, 2008 12:51 PM
@mybum

Lmfao, more multi-platform games sell on Ps3 than 360. No games get higher ratings on 360. You don't get extra DLC most of the time.

http://gamer.blorge.com/2008 /10/26/analysis-ps3-selling-mo re-games-than-xbox-360-with-sm aller-install-base/

Link to show multi-platforms sell more on Ps3.

Posted by Tmidiman - Monday, November 03, 2008 12:49 PM
I'm think development will be on whatever machine is easiest to program for. So program for the 360, you know you can port it right over to the PC, and then do a PS3 version when you have time or have someone else do it.

Lastly, when will sony stop talking like the losers in a race. Only losers mention the competition. Losers always whine the loudest. (I hope no one takes that personally.) LOL

Posted by echo710 - Monday, November 03, 2008 12:47 PM
@mybum which 360 version multi-platformers got better ratings?

Posted by hartattack - Monday, November 03, 2008 12:45 PM
thats rather ballsy of the sony exec but i can see what he is saying happening soon probly in 2009

Posted by ponchosombrero - Monday, November 03, 2008 12:44 PM
"Oh well, at least it adds some mild trash talking to the console wars."

oh i'm sure the trash talking will be anything but mild.

Posted by Get_Over_CoD4 - Monday, November 03, 2008 12:44 PM
just to point out more people have a 360 than a ps3 and the reason some games look bad is becasue of the playstation 2 im not chosing sides ps3 is awsome the 360 is awsome i have both but 360 has way better online and exclusive games ps3 has good exclusive games to but not a good fan base for them like uncharted drakes fortune was a great game not alot of people like it and there really isnt any difference in the graphics sony just likes to talk crap becasue they will never lead this gen so they need to get over that and quit crying

Posted by youenjoymyself - Monday, November 03, 2008 12:43 PM
uh oh...

Posted by mybum - Monday, November 03, 2008 12:43 PM
what a 9ussy crying about it.
im sorry that all the multiplatform games sell way more on 360 than ps3.
im sorry that 360 version of multiplatform gets better ratings than ps3 version.
im sorry that we get exclusive dlc while the ps3 versons dont.
im sorry, so stop being a 9ussy.

Posted by RedRingOfDeath - Monday, November 03, 2008 12:38 PM
This was only a matter of time. Everyone knows that the PS3 is the best console and when the devs got the hang of the PS3 hardware they would primarily focus on the PS3 and give the craps to the Xbox 3FixMe like it deserves. The PS3 is superior to the Xbox 3FixMe. The PS3 is the future and the Xbox 3FixMe is already tapped out and out of gas.

Posted by cmdluke - Monday, November 03, 2008 12:36 PM
I was going to post some stupid comment but I just don't care anymore. i love my PS3. that is all

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