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TiVo Could Shut Down Dish Network DVRs

Posted February 1, 2008 - By Brian Leahy

Looks like the courts of America believe that Dish Network infringed on copyrights held by TiVo in their own DVR systems. The appeals court upheld an earlier decision and this marks the end of the line for Dish (unless the Supreme Court decides to hear the case).

Dish network could be forced to stop selling DVRs and disable all of their existing DVRs, which might lead to a massive exodus of subscribers.

In addition, they owe TiVo something to the tune of $96 million in damages. After that, they could conceviebably pay licensing fees to TiVo to keep using and selling their DVRs.

We're interested to see what happens because Dish Network doesn't have many options.

Ars Technica: TiVo wins on appeal; Dish Networks DVRs could be turned off

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  • bonsaiman

    Are all you guys insane? Obviously you guys don't have TiVo, because TiVo is in a whole different league compared to any other DVR. We have four in our house, and can transfer shows from each other. Can your DVR do that? I can go on and on to tell you why TiVo is better than anything else out there, but its just not worth my time. You should have just bought a TiVo in the first place. Too bad suckers.

    Posted: February 1, 2008 9:30 PM
  • wag317

    yeah it's lame that I have to pay extra for local channels. What sucks even more is that I no longer can get West coast channels just incase I forgot to record a tv show and watch it at 11:30 instead of 9pm central.

    Posted: February 1, 2008 2:28 PM
  • Coltage

    Noooo! I just got Dish and now have G4 so I can now watch X-Play and Attack of the Show. Don't do this to me!

    Posted: February 1, 2008 1:43 PM
  • Frankotaco

    how can a company infringe on copyrights for a device? isn't that a patent issue? id like to see what Tivo says Dish did to infringe there copyrights. and i don't see why dish cant just change one or two things that they are infringing on and then keep the service going. my be a little different and inconvenient. but would still be able to use the DVRs. do you have to pay for dish DVR? like with Tivo? or is the Dish one yours and cost nothing more once you buy it?

    Posted: February 1, 2008 1:37 PM
  • santjnthn

    In another legal quagmire, an Atlanta court has ruled that Dish must stop distributing local network TV signals to subscribers in rural aras and small towns that don't have their own local stations.
    The court held that Dish, owned by EchoStar Communications, was violating the federal government's "distant network signal" rule, which prohibits importing local stations into regions their signals don't normally reach.

    Posted: February 1, 2008 1:37 PM
  • santjnthn

    But an appeals court blocked the order until Echostar's appeal can be heard. The ruling would have included the shutdown of the DVR service within 30 days.

    Currently, four million Dish Network subscribers use the DVR system. If Tivo prevails and Dish subscribers lsoe their DVRs, they could flee into the arms of DirecTV or their local cable system.

    The lower court's decision also requires EchoStar to pay roughly $90 million in damages to Tivo.

    Posted: February 1, 2008 1:35 PM
  • santjnthn

    Dish Network subscribers who use the company's digital video recorder (DVR) feature can breath a little easier. A federal appeals court has blocked, at least temporarily, a lower court order that the system be shut down.

    A U.S. District Court had sided with Tivo, finding that Echostar Communications, which operates Dish Network, violated Tivo's patent when it introduced the DVR devices. Echostar was ordered to shut the system down and pay Tivo nearly $90 million in damages.

    Posted: February 1, 2008 1:34 PM
  • bugman26

    Crap! If my dvr gets turned off i am going to crap a brick

    Posted: February 1, 2008 12:30 PM
  • Warheart1188

    Dish DVR is so much better than TiVo.

    Posted: February 1, 2008 12:09 PM
  • Spartan_458

    I really hope this doesn't happen, because the VIP622 and 722 are leaps and bounds better than anything TiVo has to offer. Plus I have one.

    Posted: February 1, 2008 11:46 AM
  • realitysux21

    I must say dish has by far, the best DVR service
    but I've never used a TIVO before (gasp!)
    but dish certainly is better than cablevision(iO)

    Posted: February 1, 2008 11:40 AM
  • CappinCurt

    Oh crap!!!! I hope they don't disable my new VIP722 DVR.

    Posted: February 1, 2008 11:05 AM
  • sparda_11


    Posted: February 1, 2008 11:04 AM